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> It's all in real college University courses no online course would give that to you. I learned all of what you enumerated online, usually practically applied
by q3k 7y ago
> It's all in real college University courses no online course would give that to you.
I learned all of what you enumerated online, usually practically applied too. This is not something you have to go to a university to learn.
Granted, I wasn't following a MOOC or a bootcamp - I just kept reading, and digging in deeper, and asking questions and practicing on my own.
- Jagat 7y agoYeah, but you're not representative of most people. And the same applies to those who are in the top 10% and claim college education is useless - they're not representative of most people. Folks who now have a job because they have a college degree most likely wouldn't have one if they didn't go to college. It's rare for someone to have so much self motivation. School environment forces you to learn those things without the burden of having to be so self motivated.
- throwawayjava 7y agoYeah, I started off super into self-learning, even before the whole MOOC thing took off. I loved the MIT Open Courseware courses in high school, and I even really liked the central thesis of Illich's Deschooling Society. Then I started tutoring and teaching. That's when I realized that I'm an extreme outlier. Most people are not particularly motivated and won't put in the hours upon hours of struggle. The average experience of learning CS in university is just completely alien if you teach yourself how to program as a child. The biggest differences is the emotional labor. There are lots of things that my students would describe as "frustrating" that I have literally never thought of as frustrating (e.g., reading compiler errors). I think it's similar to learning a new language as an adult vs. as a small child.