3 ms·

No, they can stop the car pretty much instantly. No magic required. And for the case you mention, a kid on a bicycle, the car will stop itself if needed for sa

by natch 7y ago

No, they can stop the car pretty much instantly. No magic required. And for the case you mention, a kid on a bicycle, the car will stop itself if needed for safety.

kd5bjo 7y ago
The car should stop itself for safety, but may not have the awareness to do this successfully. Bicyclists are explicitly listed in the warning about paying attention to the surroundings of your car while it is being summoned.
- natch 7y ago
  Paying attention to surroundings is good.
NeedMoreTea 7y ago
But magic _is_ required. A reasonable field of view to assess the hazard or approaching kid on the bike might, quite easily, be available from the car, but not 20m away looking toward the car. Case in point. That car in the video that turns into the car park looks like comes from behind the guy with the phone. Someone in the car, or the self driving sw, should have seen it far earlier. Maybe even noticed an indicator, or deceleration.
- loceng 7y ago
  And that scenario of a kid on a bicycle not being seen until they're almost in front of you exists while a driver in the vehicle too: collision detection will certainly be able to have a faster reaction than a human driver as well.
- natch 7y ago
  Fortunately the cars do have cameras facing in every direction. Clearly not sufficient to stop every fender bender but you could say the same about human drivers.
coldtea 7y ago
>And for the case you mention, a kid on a bicycle, the car will stop itself if needed for safety That's what it's reported as NOT doing, tho (and also what Tesla asks you to keep an eye on yourself while summoning, in their small print)
- natch 7y ago
  > That's what it's reported as NOT doing, tho False. Nowhere is that reported. Yes Tesla advises you to be careful.
- loceng 7y ago
  Is there video of such an incident - did you see a video of such an incident? Not saying it's not possible, however we have to keep in mind what's "reported" as clickbait "journalism" vs. reality.
  - natch 7y ago
    It wasn’t even reported... he/she’s just making stuff up.
    - coldtea 7y ago
      First of all, that's an ad-hominem (and rude). The title of TFA is about how "People Are Already Reporting Collisions With Tesla’s Driverless Smart Summon Feature". So clearly it's not the case that "the car will stop itself if needed for safety"... Your point is that if it was for a kid on a bicycle it would, but for the reported situations (not being kids on bicycles) it doesn't? Because the more obvious conclusion is that it doesn't work properly period, and that can bite people, where the case involves an incoming bicycle or not. Especially since we have reported cases of Teslas hitting bicyclists in the non-summon mode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3m1U2KiGgI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3m1U2KiGgI

by natch 7y ago

No, they can stop the car pretty much instantly. No magic required. And for the case you mention, a kid on a bicycle, the car will stop itself if needed for safety.

kd5bjo 7y ago

The car should stop itself for safety, but may not have the awareness to do this successfully. Bicyclists are explicitly listed in the warning about paying attention to the surroundings of your car while it is being summoned.

natch 7y ago
Paying attention to surroundings is good.

NeedMoreTea 7y ago

But magic _is_ required. A reasonable field of view to assess the hazard or approaching kid on the bike might, quite easily, be available from the car, but not 20m away looking toward the car. Case in point. That car in the video that turns into the car park looks like comes from behind the guy with the phone. Someone in the car, or the self driving sw, should have seen it far earlier. Maybe even noticed an indicator, or deceleration.

loceng 7y ago
And that scenario of a kid on a bicycle not being seen until they're almost in front of you exists while a driver in the vehicle too: collision detection will certainly be able to have a faster reaction than a human driver as well.
natch 7y ago
Fortunately the cars do have cameras facing in every direction. Clearly not sufficient to stop every fender bender but you could say the same about human drivers.

coldtea 7y ago

>And for the case you mention, a kid on a bicycle, the car will stop itself if needed for safety That's what it's reported as NOT doing, tho (and also what Tesla asks you to keep an eye on yourself while summoning, in their small print)

natch 7y ago
> That's what it's reported as NOT doing, tho False. Nowhere is that reported. Yes Tesla advises you to be careful.
loceng 7y ago
Is there video of such an incident - did you see a video of such an incident? Not saying it's not possible, however we have to keep in mind what's "reported" as clickbait "journalism" vs. reality.
- natch 7y ago
  It wasn’t even reported... he/she’s just making stuff up.
  - coldtea 7y ago
    First of all, that's an ad-hominem (and rude). The title of TFA is about how "People Are Already Reporting Collisions With Tesla’s Driverless Smart Summon Feature". So clearly it's not the case that "the car will stop itself if needed for safety"... Your point is that if it was for a kid on a bicycle it would, but for the reported situations (not being kids on bicycles) it doesn't? Because the more obvious conclusion is that it doesn't work properly period, and that can bite people, where the case involves an incoming bicycle or not. Especially since we have reported cases of Teslas hitting bicyclists in the non-summon mode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3m1U2KiGgI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3m1U2KiGgI