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> I don't need programmers. But lots of people do need programmers. These "is college necessary" posts suffer the same problem as "why are programmers making
by throwawayjava 7y ago
> I don't need programmers.
But lots of people do need programmers.
These "is college necessary" posts suffer the same problem as "why are programmers making 200K right out of school" posts. The job title covers everything from hacking out WordPress plugins, to leading a team building an MVP, to building large distributes systems, to designing the software that goes into medical devices and autonomous vehicles.
Some programmers really do need a CS degree with at least a few years of math and a couple years of physics. Sometimes programmers need to know a minimal amount of PHP and JavaScript. The job title captures a huge range of actual jobs.
- ThrowawayR2 7y ago> Sometimes programmers need to know a minimal amount of PHP and JavaScript I'd say that covers the majority of programming jobs. The problem, though, is that the are a vast number of people who can meet that bar and salaries are bound to collapse to reflect that at some point. What happens to them then?
- stale2002 7y ago> salaries are bound to collapse to reflect that at some point. I don't don't, I've been hearing people make this claim for a decade now. Hasn't happened yet. Quite the opposite, people keep saying this, yet salaries continue to skyrocket. Maybe basic programming skills are just really valuable, and when people learn them, they become able to do much more productive work?
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- throwawayjava 7y agoI don't know about that. I think salaries for web developers without some differentiating skill set have collapsed, or were never really that high to begin with. The average salary coming out of my undergrad's CS dept is about $60K. Programming salaries are now very bimodal.