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And China is far more modern than US in many respects: - a country wide network of high speed railroads in a country larger than the US - many more EVs manufa

And China is far more modern than US in many respects: - a country wide network of high speed railroads in a country larger than the US - many more EVs manufactured and in use - worlds largest manufacturer and consumer of solar power - essentially cashless socity. Smartphone usuable for every transaction

whaddawhat 7y ago
How is China larger than the US?
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- avian 7y ago
  Not a significant difference, but China does have more land area than US: China: 9.32 million km^2 of land US: 9.14 million km^2 of land https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_area#Countries_and_dependencies_by_area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependen...
anonu 7y ago
Infrastructure seems to be your main point to say one place is more modern than the other. I would partially agree but it's more nuanced than that. The high speed trains in China are impressive projects but could also be used as form of control over people who live outside the cities. Also going cashless is not necessarily a good thing. There is a loss of anonymity in having every transaction be digitally handled. Also, another form of control. My apologies for my dystopian view. But not all modern advances are necessarily good.
- bobthepanda 7y ago
  > The high speed trains in China are impressive projects but could also be used as form of control over people who live outside the cities. Explain?
  - userbinator 7y ago
    I've been on them a few years ago, as a visitor, and I suspect that's referring to the security checkpoints that you have to pass through. It's not like taking a bus or other public transit; the experience is closer to taking a plane across an international border.
marcinzm 7y ago
>- a country wide network of high speed railroads in a country larger than the US That's more of a factor of population density and distribution than anything else. There's few places in the US where high speed rail makes sense compared to airplanes.
- Animats 7y ago
  China is building high speed rail even where it doesn't "make sense", as part of a national policy to tie the country together. Here's a current map.[1] That's comparable to having high speed rail to every major city east of the Mississippi, plus a line out to the West Coast. [1] https://www.travelchinaguide.com/images/map/train/high-speed-railway.jpg https://www.travelchinaguide.com/images/map/train/high-speed...
jp_sc 7y ago
And just a week to receive an organ transplant. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21104324 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21104324
bfieidhbrjr 7y ago
Why don’t you move there immediately? Oh yeah, we all know why.

whaddawhat 7y ago

How is China larger than the US?

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avian 7y ago
Not a significant difference, but China does have more land area than US: China: 9.32 million km^2 of land US: 9.14 million km^2 of land https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependencies_by_area#Countries_and_dependencies_by_area https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependen...

anonu 7y ago

Infrastructure seems to be your main point to say one place is more modern than the other. I would partially agree but it's more nuanced than that. The high speed trains in China are impressive projects but could also be used as form of control over people who live outside the cities. Also going cashless is not necessarily a good thing. There is a loss of anonymity in having every transaction be digitally handled. Also, another form of control. My apologies for my dystopian view. But not all modern advances are necessarily good.

bobthepanda 7y ago
> The high speed trains in China are impressive projects but could also be used as form of control over people who live outside the cities. Explain?
- userbinator 7y ago
  I've been on them a few years ago, as a visitor, and I suspect that's referring to the security checkpoints that you have to pass through. It's not like taking a bus or other public transit; the experience is closer to taking a plane across an international border.

marcinzm 7y ago

>- a country wide network of high speed railroads in a country larger than the US That's more of a factor of population density and distribution than anything else. There's few places in the US where high speed rail makes sense compared to airplanes.

Animats 7y ago
China is building high speed rail even where it doesn't "make sense", as part of a national policy to tie the country together. Here's a current map.[1] That's comparable to having high speed rail to every major city east of the Mississippi, plus a line out to the West Coast. [1] https://www.travelchinaguide.com/images/map/train/high-speed-railway.jpg https://www.travelchinaguide.com/images/map/train/high-speed...

jp_sc 7y ago

And just a week to receive an organ transplant. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21104324 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21104324

bfieidhbrjr 7y ago

Why don’t you move there immediately? Oh yeah, we all know why.