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The feature is in beta, and it is enabled on cars lacking the latest hardware. I think it would be reasonable to expect issues especially for those cars. I kno

by ztjio 7y ago

The feature is in beta, and it is enabled on cars lacking the latest hardware. I think it would be reasonable to expect issues especially for those cars. I know it's very popular to cherry pick incidents and attack Tesla these days, but, nobody else is pushing the envelope. And nothing about this feature is putting anyone at significant risk. These are inconveniences that have occurred, and nothing else. In the meantime, the pursuit of self driving cars is pushed forward greatly through the collection of this data. In the end, this will benefit everyone. For now, we can sit back and enjoy the cringey videos this will produce.

duaoebg 7y ago
It's bad enough to share the road with bad drivers now I have to share the road with poorly written software.
- celticninja 7y ago
  You think cars were running perfect software before Tesla?
  - elcomet 7y ago
    No, but they didn't drive alone.
Tomte 7y ago
> nobody else is pushing the envelope Many other companies do. They just stop short of releasing obviously substandard and dangerous technologies into the wild. That's what test tracks were built for, not public streets.
- missosoup 7y ago
  To add to this, there are a number of production cars today with level 2 automation equivalent to or better than Tesla's. None of them made a big fuss about it. The only envelope Tesla is pushing with 'autopilot' is in misleading marketing that has been directly linked to drivers misunderstanding the capabilities/limitations of the technology.
consolasfont 7y ago
> The feature is in beta I. Don't. Care. The way I see it is that if someone's Tesla crashed into my car in the parking lot then as far as I am concerned it is 100% the fault of the owner and the owner should compensate me 100%. The fact that it wasn't technically their fault but instead it was bad software matters nil to me. To me the only person I interacted with is the Tesla owner, and that's who I will put blame on. I don't care if the owner is able to defer blame to someone else. They can do that, but I want "mine" from the owner.
- RaceWon 7y ago
  > 100% the fault of the owner and the owner should compensate me 100%. The owners fault?? Nope--I feel its Tesla's fault... entirely. Well them and the DOT for allowing this experiment to be carried out on public roads. Meanwhile Google still asks me what a truck on a hill looks like via captcha's... oh yeah this self driving tech is ready to go!
- Erlich_Bachman 7y ago
  What part or letter of the word "beta" don't you understand? Can't you just not use the functionality until the company says that it is complete? There is plenty of other functionality in a Tesla car, why not use that?
  - icebraining 7y ago
    consolasfont is talking from the POV of the non-Tesla owner who got hit by a Tesla.
  - akerl_ 7y ago
    The comment you’re replying to is talking about their non-Tesla being hit by a Tesla operated by somebody else. How do we force other drivers to not use this feature? What if it wasn’t released until it’s less likely to collide with other people’s property
  - sschueller 7y ago
    The Public road is not a beta testing ground.
hef19898 7y ago
So you are fine with beta testing safety relevant features in the wild which could harm, injure and even kill people? You know that cars are not some app?

by ztjio 7y ago

duaoebg 7y ago

It's bad enough to share the road with bad drivers now I have to share the road with poorly written software.

celticninja 7y ago
You think cars were running perfect software before Tesla?
- elcomet 7y ago
  No, but they didn't drive alone.

Tomte 7y ago

> nobody else is pushing the envelope Many other companies do. They just stop short of releasing obviously substandard and dangerous technologies into the wild. That's what test tracks were built for, not public streets.

missosoup 7y ago
To add to this, there are a number of production cars today with level 2 automation equivalent to or better than Tesla's. None of them made a big fuss about it. The only envelope Tesla is pushing with 'autopilot' is in misleading marketing that has been directly linked to drivers misunderstanding the capabilities/limitations of the technology.

consolasfont 7y ago

> The feature is in beta I. Don't. Care. The way I see it is that if someone's Tesla crashed into my car in the parking lot then as far as I am concerned it is 100% the fault of the owner and the owner should compensate me 100%. The fact that it wasn't technically their fault but instead it was bad software matters nil to me. To me the only person I interacted with is the Tesla owner, and that's who I will put blame on. I don't care if the owner is able to defer blame to someone else. They can do that, but I want "mine" from the owner.

RaceWon 7y ago
> 100% the fault of the owner and the owner should compensate me 100%. The owners fault?? Nope--I feel its Tesla's fault... entirely. Well them and the DOT for allowing this experiment to be carried out on public roads. Meanwhile Google still asks me what a truck on a hill looks like via captcha's... oh yeah this self driving tech is ready to go!
Erlich_Bachman 7y ago
What part or letter of the word "beta" don't you understand? Can't you just not use the functionality until the company says that it is complete? There is plenty of other functionality in a Tesla car, why not use that?
- icebraining 7y ago
  consolasfont is talking from the POV of the non-Tesla owner who got hit by a Tesla.
- akerl_ 7y ago
  The comment you’re replying to is talking about their non-Tesla being hit by a Tesla operated by somebody else. How do we force other drivers to not use this feature? What if it wasn’t released until it’s less likely to collide with other people’s property
- sschueller 7y ago
  The Public road is not a beta testing ground.

hef19898 7y ago

So you are fine with beta testing safety relevant features in the wild which could harm, injure and even kill people? You know that cars are not some app?