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College/university is supposed to be about getting an education. For most people it isn't. It is about getting that piece of paper and its clear they learned

College/university is supposed to be about getting an education. For most people it isn't. It is about getting that piece of paper and its clear they learned next to nothing. I take graduate degrees seriously, because people tend to take those seriously and focus on the education more than the paper at the end. I don't take 4 year degrees seriously at all. If all you've proven is that you can survive with minimal effort for four years before losing patience then you certainly have more potential than the lowest side of a bell curve, but you haven't proven you bring added value.

gowld 7y ago
Graduate degrees are pieces of paper too. Masters are shameless money grabs. Most doctorates will kick you out with a degree if you sit around long enough.
fogetti 7y ago
This doesn't make any sense. Just like you demoted the master's curriculum and all it's requirements to pass the classes on the way, you can say the same thing about the doctorate. You put in a few more years of minimal effort before losing patience to become a professor or having any kind of tenure. There you go. You haven't proven you bring added value.
barry-cotter 7y ago
As someone who’s getting a Master’s at the moment, trust me, it’s just a marginally harder Bachelor’s degree, year 5 or 6. The main difference between it and Bachelor’s is that people are older on average.
- austincheney 7y ago
  I only have a 4 year degree myself, so perhaps I am giving graduate work greater esteem than my experience allows.
  - barry-cotter 7y ago
    As one of my friends said about their teaching qualification, “P.E. teachers get the same PGCE as everybody else.” There are plenty of other degrees that don’t teach anything valuable and exist purely to provide ammunition in the argument “I should be paid more.” The average MBA student is not held in especially great esteem by their professors either. Doing research is by all accounts difficult and draining to a ridiculous degree but if you did well in undergraduate coursework graduate coursework is more of the same.

gowld 7y ago

Graduate degrees are pieces of paper too. Masters are shameless money grabs. Most doctorates will kick you out with a degree if you sit around long enough.

fogetti 7y ago

This doesn't make any sense. Just like you demoted the master's curriculum and all it's requirements to pass the classes on the way, you can say the same thing about the doctorate. You put in a few more years of minimal effort before losing patience to become a professor or having any kind of tenure. There you go. You haven't proven you bring added value.

barry-cotter 7y ago

As someone who’s getting a Master’s at the moment, trust me, it’s just a marginally harder Bachelor’s degree, year 5 or 6. The main difference between it and Bachelor’s is that people are older on average.

austincheney 7y ago
I only have a 4 year degree myself, so perhaps I am giving graduate work greater esteem than my experience allows.
- barry-cotter 7y ago
  As one of my friends said about their teaching qualification, “P.E. teachers get the same PGCE as everybody else.” There are plenty of other degrees that don’t teach anything valuable and exist purely to provide ammunition in the argument “I should be paid more.” The average MBA student is not held in especially great esteem by their professors either. Doing research is by all accounts difficult and draining to a ridiculous degree but if you did well in undergraduate coursework graduate coursework is more of the same.