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To add on to what the other replier said - hilariously the monitor also doesn't come with VESA mounting holes standard - you have to buy an adapter separately f

To add on to what the other replier said - hilariously the monitor also doesn't come with VESA mounting holes standard - you have to buy an adapter separately for ~$100, so they screw you regardless of which stand option you want. Not sure why this was brought up under a reply about linux though.

dhhdhdsbdb 7y ago
Im sorry, but I really don't understand your perspective. Does Porsche screw their customers when they charge $500 for an oil change? Is Coach "screwing" it's customer by charging that much for a purse? High five audio devices often don't have cabling that consumer devices do - is that screwing the consumer? I can appreciate that you don't want to pay that much, but how is it "screwing"?
- taxidump 7y ago
  >but how is it "screwing"? Because all you get for $1000 is a one nice stand?
  - oarsinsync 7y ago
    Good thing the Apple Watch is such a good bargain then, since all you get from Rolex for $10000 is one nice watch. Not all things in technology are created for all people. If you think selling a $6000 screen with a $900 discount if you only need a VESA mount because you already have a $2000 desk & mount setup is absurd, you’re not the target market.
    - morsch 7y ago
      Good thing the Apple Watch is such a good bargain then, since all you get from Rolex for $10000 is one nice watch. A Rolex is a piece of jewelry, a status symbol. Might as well compare it with a Louis Vuitton handbag. What you are saying is that the display is desktop jewelry.
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- p1necone 7y ago
  "Does Porsche screw their customers when they charge $500 for an oil change" Uh, yes? Either they've designed their cars so that routine maintenance is unnecessarily difficult or they're overcharging for it, either way they're screwing you. As an enthusiast it's been my experience that high end audio stuff is usually designed in a modular way and uses standard inputs and outputs and it's the cheaper, consumer grade gear that often uses stuff like non standard speaker inputs. Although the HiFi market certainly has it's own fair share of overpriced snake oil. I don't know much about coach specifically so I won't comment on that, but there are plenty of handbag brands that exist purely as a status symbol and charge obscene amounts of money just because customers are willing to pay that much, and yes I also perceive that as dishonest.
jsgo 7y ago
I’m not going to pretend to know the intricacies of their monitor, but what if just drilling holes in the back in accordance with the VESA standard would damage the underlying screen/electronics? So an adapter would be needed, right? Now what if you’re the guy who wants the expensive stand? Should you also pay for an adapter plate (I assume) for VESA mounting you’d never use? They could include the adapter and adjust price accordingly or they can allow their customers to pick their poison without being forced to buy something they don’t need. Frankly, I think that’s nice. I bought an ASUS 3440x1440 gaming monitor (the gsync ultrawide with 100Hz “overclock”). It comes with a base that is heavy as hell and has some LED flashlight like component to it that projects the ROG logo onto the desk. Where is that base now? Sitting in my attic inside a trash bag (for a thin amount of protection from dust and dirt) as I have the monitor on one of my two desk arms. I also paid ~$1,200 for this. If I could’ve paid for that monitor without the stand at a reduced price reflective of the cost of that stand, I’d be pleased, quite frankly.

dhhdhdsbdb 7y ago

Im sorry, but I really don't understand your perspective. Does Porsche screw their customers when they charge $500 for an oil change? Is Coach "screwing" it's customer by charging that much for a purse? High five audio devices often don't have cabling that consumer devices do - is that screwing the consumer? I can appreciate that you don't want to pay that much, but how is it "screwing"?

taxidump 7y ago
>but how is it "screwing"? Because all you get for $1000 is a one nice stand?
- oarsinsync 7y ago
  Good thing the Apple Watch is such a good bargain then, since all you get from Rolex for $10000 is one nice watch. Not all things in technology are created for all people. If you think selling a $6000 screen with a $900 discount if you only need a VESA mount because you already have a $2000 desk & mount setup is absurd, you’re not the target market.
  - morsch 7y ago
    Good thing the Apple Watch is such a good bargain then, since all you get from Rolex for $10000 is one nice watch. A Rolex is a piece of jewelry, a status symbol. Might as well compare it with a Louis Vuitton handbag. What you are saying is that the display is desktop jewelry.
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p1necone 7y ago
"Does Porsche screw their customers when they charge $500 for an oil change" Uh, yes? Either they've designed their cars so that routine maintenance is unnecessarily difficult or they're overcharging for it, either way they're screwing you. As an enthusiast it's been my experience that high end audio stuff is usually designed in a modular way and uses standard inputs and outputs and it's the cheaper, consumer grade gear that often uses stuff like non standard speaker inputs. Although the HiFi market certainly has it's own fair share of overpriced snake oil. I don't know much about coach specifically so I won't comment on that, but there are plenty of handbag brands that exist purely as a status symbol and charge obscene amounts of money just because customers are willing to pay that much, and yes I also perceive that as dishonest.

jsgo 7y ago

I’m not going to pretend to know the intricacies of their monitor, but what if just drilling holes in the back in accordance with the VESA standard would damage the underlying screen/electronics? So an adapter would be needed, right? Now what if you’re the guy who wants the expensive stand? Should you also pay for an adapter plate (I assume) for VESA mounting you’d never use? They could include the adapter and adjust price accordingly or they can allow their customers to pick their poison without being forced to buy something they don’t need. Frankly, I think that’s nice. I bought an ASUS 3440x1440 gaming monitor (the gsync ultrawide with 100Hz “overclock”). It comes with a base that is heavy as hell and has some LED flashlight like component to it that projects the ROG logo onto the desk. Where is that base now? Sitting in my attic inside a trash bag (for a thin amount of protection from dust and dirt) as I have the monitor on one of my two desk arms. I also paid ~$1,200 for this. If I could’ve paid for that monitor without the stand at a reduced price reflective of the cost of that stand, I’d be pleased, quite frankly.