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> I do remember ASP, Cold fusion, CGI This is the competition that PHP was so much better than.
by wvenable 7y ago
> I do remember ASP, Cold fusion, CGI
This is the competition that PHP was so much better than.
- Sir_Vival 7y agoI had a job 5 or 6 years ago where I needed to maintain/add to a website using ColdFusion. I actually kind of liked it, compared to PHP. That said I wasn't doing anything especially complex, which might have changed my mind.
- pjmlp 7y agoCGI yes, ASP certainly not.
- untog 7y agoASP required a license. That alone made PHP superior for many people.
- pjmlp 7y agoCheaper definitely, superior not.
- untog 7y agoWhy are the two separate? Of course you include cost when evaluating with option is superior.
- pjmlp 7y agoBecause to be superior, the tooling and libraries also have to be superior. PHP was only free beer with a clunky language and 3rd class DB support. MySQL couldn't hold a candle to real RDMS back then, versus what was available with ODBC connectors.
- untog 7y ago> Because to be superior, the tooling and libraries also have to be superior. Perhaps that is your definition, but the dictionary disagrees.
- pjmlp 7y agoYour dictionary definition I guess. https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/superior https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/superior I don't see definitions about being cheaper as sign of quality, quite the opposite. Maybe you would like to share your dictionary as well?
- purerandomness 7y agoASP was inaccessible for younger developers, tinkering with a linux box after school.
- pjmlp 7y agoThat is a very regional example. Getting access to a Windows box was never a problem in countries with more flexibility towards piracy. 80 and 90's Portuguese students could get whatever they wanted from shaddy shops that used to copy books and software. Booklets with 200+ items on them.
- wvenable 7y agoClassic ASP was terrible; if you're thinking ASP.NET then that did not exist at the time.
- pjmlp 7y agoUsing OCX from ASP, written in Delphi, VB and C++ Builder, alongside VB Script, was definitely better than PHP 3.
- wvenable 7y agoShared hosts didn't let you use anything but VBScript and JScript. Using COM components was a non-starter for the majority of users -- which is entirely the point.
- pjmlp 7y agoThe ones that offered IIS instead of ASP via Apache surely did, depending on the price plan.
- wvenable 7y agoThere is no ASP via Apache. ASP was only ever hosted on IIS and given the huge security implications of running custom binaries on IIS in a shared environment, it almost wasn't ever done. I started doing ASP development before my web host suggested it was cheaper and easier to do PHP. They had both Linux and Windows shared hosting at the time.