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And it will end up being used by fewer people, after which their telemetry will indicate that fewer than X % of people are using the feature thus they will clai

by weikju 7y ago

And it will end up being used by fewer people, after which their telemetry will indicate that fewer than X % of people are using the feature thus they will claim it's justified to remove it.

nickjj 7y ago
Yes, and I bet that data is what provoked them to start doing this already. Even before this change you have to navigate out of your way to pick an offline account. It would be easy to think "oh, a large percent of users don't want local accounts" just looking at the telemetry data. When really that's a given because the option is only going to be found by someone who knows beforehand that they want an offline account and fully expects it to be buried multiple menus deep in an advanced setting. Microsoft was doing really good to gain developer traction with things like WSL, VSCode and the upcoming WSL2 release. But if they ever really do require a real account to use Windows, well... that's enough to cancel all of those things out to the point where die hard developers might just throw their arms up in the air and move to Linux even if it means making sacrifices for certain things.
- cameronbrown 7y ago
  Silver lining: WSL2 and vscode make Linux evermore competitive when it comes to developer tools by being the standard.
- behnamoh 7y ago
  >> that's enough to cancel all of those things out to the point where die hard developers might just throw their arms up in the air and move to Linux even if it means making sacrifices for certain things. And would those programmers develop software that's not written for Windows only? I don't think so. As much as I hate Windows and advocate the idea of moving to other operating systems (even macOS), at the end of the day, developers don't have enough discretion in choosing which platform(s) to write programs for; it's the management that decides it.

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And it will end up being used by fewer people, after which their telemetry will indicate that fewer than X % of people are using the feature thus they will clai

by weikju 7y ago

And it will end up being used by fewer people, after which their telemetry will indicate that fewer than X % of people are using the feature thus they will claim it's justified to remove it.

nickjj 7y ago
Yes, and I bet that data is what provoked them to start doing this already. Even before this change you have to navigate out of your way to pick an offline account. It would be easy to think "oh, a large percent of users don't want local accounts" just looking at the telemetry data. When really that's a given because the option is only going to be found by someone who knows beforehand that they want an offline account and fully expects it to be buried multiple menus deep in an advanced setting. Microsoft was doing really good to gain developer traction with things like WSL, VSCode and the upcoming WSL2 release. But if they ever really do require a real account to use Windows, well... that's enough to cancel all of those things out to the point where die hard developers might just throw their arms up in the air and move to Linux even if it means making sacrifices for certain things.
- cameronbrown 7y ago
  Silver lining: WSL2 and vscode make Linux evermore competitive when it comes to developer tools by being the standard.
- behnamoh 7y ago
  >> that's enough to cancel all of those things out to the point where die hard developers might just throw their arms up in the air and move to Linux even if it means making sacrifices for certain things. And would those programmers develop software that's not written for Windows only? I don't think so. As much as I hate Windows and advocate the idea of moving to other operating systems (even macOS), at the end of the day, developers don't have enough discretion in choosing which platform(s) to write programs for; it's the management that decides it.