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Just a tip (with no offence intended), you may want to avoid terms like "SJW" in the future if you want your post to be taken seriously or engage in honest disc

Just a tip (with no offence intended), you may want to avoid terms like "SJW" in the future if you want your post to be taken seriously or engage in honest discussion with others.

BlackRing 7y ago
When these people title themselves that way it's not inaccurate to use.
- dependenttypes 7y ago
  Does not need to be inaccurate in order to make other people assume that you are yet another alt-right nutjob and avoid engaging in discussion with you.
  - BlackRing 7y ago
    Unfortunately that's their shortcoming and not mine as I can at least correct my mistakes. Other people aren't keen on correcting theirs nor can I force someone to recognize their own.
    - dependenttypes 7y ago
      Usage of said word will only get your posts to be [flagged] [dead], it is up to you, if you want your post to stay on hackernews or not. Mind you, I do not have any authority in this matter. It is just my personal observation that posts that call people SJWs end up dying, just like posts that call people nazis.
      - aortega 7y ago
        > posts that call people SJWs end up dying, just like posts that call people nazis. And it's not a coincidence.
        tptacek 7y ago
        You're right. Contrary to popular Twitter opinion, HN is not especially welcoming to Nazis.
quotemstr 7y ago
There are plenty of people, myself included, who won't discount someone's ideas just because he used a word. I don't agree with language policing, especially if it's done with subtle threats to one's reputation.
- spookthesunset 7y ago
  99% of all people using the term “SJW” are acting in bad faith. It makes sense to dismiss anything using that term. Downvote. If on reddit, look at their history and marvel how many people using that term post to t_d and affiliated subreddits, shake your head at the world today and move on.
  - BlackRing 7y ago
    That's quite the claim. Where's your evidence? I'm only stating a name many of them have branded themselves as, and proudly at that. It's a point of discussion and quite frankly disturbing people make assumptions as to those who use it. Everything is presented verifiable with the smallest of effort.
    - spookthesunset 7y ago
      If you use the term not knowing the types of people that use it, that’s on you. Either you are a member of the alt-right (99% chance) or you are profoundly ignorant. Either way, it’s in you. Proof of my claim is simply being in the internet.
      - airbreather 7y ago
        And here is the root of many problems, the assumption that someone is "right wing", or "left wing", or whatever, just because of one view or idea known. With the following assumption that their personality, behaviors and thoughts can be predicted. It's usually associated with come kind of bigotry and used as put down describing someone as being in another camp to the writer. There are people in the world who have opinions based on critical thinking that are individually arisen at, per item. Many are just pragmatic. Some just don't have the ability to form a different view in some cases because they have not witnessed or experienced various forms of prejudice, persecution, being exploited and so on. And that doesn't make them privileged, at most it makes them luckily ignorant. There is no "side" or "group" that holds the entire high morel ground in anything. "What if I told you that a bird needs both wings to fly?".

Just a tip (with no offence intended), you may want to avoid terms like "SJW" in the future if you want your post to be taken seriously or engage in honest discussion with others.

BlackRing 7y ago

When these people title themselves that way it's not inaccurate to use.

dependenttypes 7y ago
Does not need to be inaccurate in order to make other people assume that you are yet another alt-right nutjob and avoid engaging in discussion with you.
- BlackRing 7y ago
  Unfortunately that's their shortcoming and not mine as I can at least correct my mistakes. Other people aren't keen on correcting theirs nor can I force someone to recognize their own.
  - dependenttypes 7y ago
    Usage of said word will only get your posts to be [flagged] [dead], it is up to you, if you want your post to stay on hackernews or not. Mind you, I do not have any authority in this matter. It is just my personal observation that posts that call people SJWs end up dying, just like posts that call people nazis.
    - aortega 7y ago
      > posts that call people SJWs end up dying, just like posts that call people nazis. And it's not a coincidence.
      - tptacek 7y ago
        You're right. Contrary to popular Twitter opinion, HN is not especially welcoming to Nazis.

quotemstr 7y ago

There are plenty of people, myself included, who won't discount someone's ideas just because he used a word. I don't agree with language policing, especially if it's done with subtle threats to one's reputation.

spookthesunset 7y ago
99% of all people using the term “SJW” are acting in bad faith. It makes sense to dismiss anything using that term. Downvote. If on reddit, look at their history and marvel how many people using that term post to t_d and affiliated subreddits, shake your head at the world today and move on.
- BlackRing 7y ago
  That's quite the claim. Where's your evidence? I'm only stating a name many of them have branded themselves as, and proudly at that. It's a point of discussion and quite frankly disturbing people make assumptions as to those who use it. Everything is presented verifiable with the smallest of effort.
  - spookthesunset 7y ago
    If you use the term not knowing the types of people that use it, that’s on you. Either you are a member of the alt-right (99% chance) or you are profoundly ignorant. Either way, it’s in you. Proof of my claim is simply being in the internet.
    - airbreather 7y ago
      And here is the root of many problems, the assumption that someone is "right wing", or "left wing", or whatever, just because of one view or idea known. With the following assumption that their personality, behaviors and thoughts can be predicted. It's usually associated with come kind of bigotry and used as put down describing someone as being in another camp to the writer. There are people in the world who have opinions based on critical thinking that are individually arisen at, per item. Many are just pragmatic. Some just don't have the ability to form a different view in some cases because they have not witnessed or experienced various forms of prejudice, persecution, being exploited and so on. And that doesn't make them privileged, at most it makes them luckily ignorant. There is no "side" or "group" that holds the entire high morel ground in anything. "What if I told you that a bird needs both wings to fly?".