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You should read his actual emails, he never defended Epstein. Sites were just parroting what they read on a medium article written by someone with an axe to gr

by dx87 7y ago

You should read his actual emails, he never defended Epstein. Sites were just parroting what they read on a medium article written by someone with an axe to grind who'd never met RMS.

gizmo686 7y ago
Stallman's "defense" of a serial sex trafficker (applogogies for the poor transcription, I just did some minor corrections to the OCR from vice): "The announcement of the Friday event does an injustice to Marvin Minsky: deceased Al "pioneer" Marvin Minsky (who is accused of assaulting one of Epstein's victims The injustice is in the word "assaulting". The term "sexual assault" is so vague and slippery that it facilitates accusation inflation: taking claims that someone did and leading people to think of it as Y, which is much worse than X. The accusation quoted is a clear example of in?ation. The reference reports the claim that Minsky had sex with one of Epstein?s harem. (See [URL that didn't make it through OCR]) Let's presume that was true (I see no reason to disbelieve it). The word "assaulting" presumes that he applied force or violence, in some unspecified way, but the article itself says no such thing. Only that they had sex. We can imagine many scenarios, but the most plausible scenario is that she presented herself to him as entirely willing. Assuming she was being coerced by Epstein, he would have had every reason to tell her to conceal that from most of his associates. l've concluded from various examples of accusation inflation that it is absolutely wrong to use the term "sexual assault" in an accusation. Whatever conduct you want to criticize, you should describe it with a specific term that avoids moral vagueness about the nature of the criticism. " [0] As an aside. as discussed in the thread, it is not clear if any first party even accused Minsky of engaging in the alleged sex in the first place [0] https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9ke3ke/famed-computer-scientist-richard-stallman-described-epstein-victims-as-entirely-willing https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9ke3ke/famed-computer-sci...

by dx87 7y ago

You should read his actual emails, he never defended Epstein. Sites were just parroting what they read on a medium article written by someone with an axe to grind who'd never met RMS.

gizmo686 7y ago

Stallman's "defense" of a serial sex trafficker (applogogies for the poor transcription, I just did some minor corrections to the OCR from vice): "The announcement of the Friday event does an injustice to Marvin Minsky: deceased Al "pioneer" Marvin Minsky (who is accused of assaulting one of Epstein's victims The injustice is in the word "assaulting". The term "sexual assault" is so vague and slippery that it facilitates accusation inflation: taking claims that someone did and leading people to think of it as Y, which is much worse than X. The accusation quoted is a clear example of in?ation. The reference reports the claim that Minsky had sex with one of Epstein?s harem. (See [URL that didn't make it through OCR]) Let's presume that was true (I see no reason to disbelieve it). The word "assaulting" presumes that he applied force or violence, in some unspecified way, but the article itself says no such thing. Only that they had sex. We can imagine many scenarios, but the most plausible scenario is that she presented herself to him as entirely willing. Assuming she was being coerced by Epstein, he would have had every reason to tell her to conceal that from most of his associates. l've concluded from various examples of accusation inflation that it is absolutely wrong to use the term "sexual assault" in an accusation. Whatever conduct you want to criticize, you should describe it with a specific term that avoids moral vagueness about the nature of the criticism. " [0] As an aside. as discussed in the thread, it is not clear if any first party even accused Minsky of engaging in the alleged sex in the first place [0] https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9ke3ke/famed-computer-scientist-richard-stallman-described-epstein-victims-as-entirely-willing https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9ke3ke/famed-computer-sci...