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https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/ https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/ documents how RMS's words were twisted. The reporting was without doubt careless
by deogeo 7y ago
https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/ https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/ documents how RMS's words were twisted. The reporting was without doubt careless and misleading. Specifically, his
she presented herself to him as entirely willing
was re-phrased to
then he says that an enslaved child could, somehow, be "entirely willing".
'Presented as' and 'be' are subtly, but critically different, so paraphrasing him like that is a lie. At the same time, it's close enough that it could be argued it's an honest mistake. Given how short the original quote was, I highly suspect the decision to trim it to a mere two words was malicious. But convincing a court it wasn't an honest mistake/misinterpretation would be difficult, and it's close enough to the truth that "reckless disregard for truth" wouldn't apply, I assume.
Other publications repeated this, with titles such as Renowned MIT Scientist Defends Epstein: Victims Were "Entirely Willing" - which is again false, as he neither defended Epstein (if you must interpret his statements as a defense, it was only for Minsky), nor did he claim the victims were willing.
In sum, the reporting contained damaging false statements - did you have some specific reasoning why this wouldn't be libel (even if difficult to prove intent in practice)?
Edit: Yes, I agree, merely quoting the initial article wouldn't be libel. However, many articles repeated the creatively re-contextualized RMS quote themselves, without attributing it to the original medium post, and made it look like it was something they themselves were stating.
- tptacek 7y agoI don't know enough about the original article to comment, and I'm not a lawyer, so my comment wouldn't be qualified anyways. I'm responding to the much broader argument made upthread, that any site that merely quoted the original story would be liable. That much I believe to be false, because, again, it's something Ken White has talked at length about, and Ken White is an expert.
- wcr3 7y agoyup, i agree w/ your edit; looks like media dropped the ball and went for what'd sound most outrageous. which especially sucks bc the original medium post was very well (and earnestly) written. press coverage did a disservice to all those involved.
- dkersten 7y agoHe actually went one step further and said "presented herself to him as entirely willing. Assuming she was being coerced by Epstein, he would have had every reason to tell her to conceal that from most of his associates." He never said she was willing, but that she was likely coerced by Epstein to present herself that way. The medium post and reporting thereof all somehow equate this to "RMS said the victim was entirely willing". O_o