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Will not. We are completely opposed to this. Backdoors are a horrible idea and any government who suggests them is proposing weakening the security and privac

Will not. We are completely opposed to this. Backdoors are a horrible idea and any government who suggests them is proposing weakening the security and privacy of everyone.

spuz 7y ago
Thanks.
benevol 7y ago
As much as would like to believe all promises coming from corporate execs - Facebook has been caught lying more than enough. So thanks for trying, but I have uninstalled WhatsApp and I'm happy with Threema.
- ripdog 7y ago
  Have you considered Riot (Matrix) or Signal? Both are open source so it's possible to verify claims made on their website, which is a lot less possible with proprietary software like Threema.
  - ttctciyf 7y ago
    And with Matrix apps you can choose to run your own server. Not sure what legal ramifications that has, but practically speaking it allows the possibility of eliminating another potential weakness.
    - spac 7y ago
      ... but probably opening many new ones, unless one has a really strong security team in place.
      - feanaro 7y ago
        These vulnerabilities would then at least be bespoke, particular to a specific server, preventing mass surveillance. At least if you're not talking about potential vulnerabilities in synapse (Matrix server software), but then a strong security team wouldn't help that much.
mirimir 7y ago
Thanks for the clarity. So will WhatsApp refuse to comply, if this goes forward? And is that even possible? I do appreciate that Facebook has the resources to fight. To fight an NSL, even. But IANAL, and have no clue.
- vuln 7y ago
  Facebook give the government this and the government in acts regulations to “protect” Facebook. I’m sure Facebook is salivating at the thought at getting even more access to your sensitive data. Once the backdoor is installed who knows who’ll have access.
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badrabbit 7y ago
Will you pull out of UK and US? Seems very unrealistic. You have no choice but to obey the law,even if the law is ridiculous. Have you considered architectural changes that will allow for the app to be compiled and deployed by an affiliate corp outside of these jurisdictions?

Will not. We are completely opposed to this. Backdoors are a horrible idea and any government who suggests them is proposing weakening the security and privacy of everyone.

spuz 7y ago

Thanks.

benevol 7y ago

As much as would like to believe all promises coming from corporate execs - Facebook has been caught lying more than enough. So thanks for trying, but I have uninstalled WhatsApp and I'm happy with Threema.

ripdog 7y ago
Have you considered Riot (Matrix) or Signal? Both are open source so it's possible to verify claims made on their website, which is a lot less possible with proprietary software like Threema.
- ttctciyf 7y ago
  And with Matrix apps you can choose to run your own server. Not sure what legal ramifications that has, but practically speaking it allows the possibility of eliminating another potential weakness.
  - spac 7y ago
    ... but probably opening many new ones, unless one has a really strong security team in place.
    - feanaro 7y ago
      These vulnerabilities would then at least be bespoke, particular to a specific server, preventing mass surveillance. At least if you're not talking about potential vulnerabilities in synapse (Matrix server software), but then a strong security team wouldn't help that much.

mirimir 7y ago

Thanks for the clarity. So will WhatsApp refuse to comply, if this goes forward? And is that even possible? I do appreciate that Facebook has the resources to fight. To fight an NSL, even. But IANAL, and have no clue.

vuln 7y ago
Facebook give the government this and the government in acts regulations to “protect” Facebook. I’m sure Facebook is salivating at the thought at getting even more access to your sensitive data. Once the backdoor is installed who knows who’ll have access.
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badrabbit 7y ago

Will you pull out of UK and US? Seems very unrealistic. You have no choice but to obey the law,even if the law is ridiculous. Have you considered architectural changes that will allow for the app to be compiled and deployed by an affiliate corp outside of these jurisdictions?