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I think they should do as the laws in Brazil. In Brazil, It is not allowed to give sentences for more than 30 years, and if the prisoner has good behavior, he

I think they should do as the laws in Brazil. In Brazil, It is not allowed to give sentences for more than 30 years, and if the prisoner has good behavior, he is out in 1/6 of his sentence. And still, if he is not caught in 24h, was his first murder and has a job he may wait for the final judgment outside prison (after all appeals). Brazil is big, multi-diverse and is very nice. The Brazilian penal code is the most human and modern criminal code. And it brought great success as [1](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Brazil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Brazil) Nowadays we have a "repressive", "gun-loving" president that wants the revert our success. [2](https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/22/brazils-murder-rate-finally-fell-and-by-a-lot/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/22/brazils-murder-rate-fin...) [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Brazil https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_Brazil [2] - https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/22/brazils-murder-rate-finally-fell-and-by-a-lot/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/04/22/brazils-murder-rate-fin...

echelon 7y ago
Brazil has one of the highest murder rates in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate I'm not an expert, but at face value I'm not sure their system is effective. I'd like to see data on reoffenders and deterrence.
brazilman123 7y ago
Brazil has a big crime problem, a huge murder rate. There are people who simply aren't fit to be in society. There are people who get out of prison after their 5 years of good behavior, and immediately a week later are raping someone again. Why do the victims have less value than the violent murderer/rapist criminals? It is simply shocking to me you think it's ok for murderers to be out of jail if they have a job. What do you propose to do about this, besides blaming Bolsonaro - btw the criminals already all have guns, it's only the lawful citizens who have a hard time getting them. There's a reason everyone in brazil has to hide behind electric fences, security systems, etc.
curiouswanderer 7y ago
The law is too lax. I also want to kill someone and then my sentence reduced to 1/6. In fact, I'd like to rob all brazilians from their taxpayer money through my corrupt construction company and then go to "home prison" at my 32 million square feet mansion without giving a single dime back. That's what I call a good application of the law! All hail the "great success" that it is.
epx 7y ago
You are being ironic, right?
- superflit 7y ago
  Sure I was!! But we always have some "activists" that take some "edge" case and try to stretch it to all cases. We have to focus on the real victims not on people that ganged and killed someone cold blood.
timlod 7y ago
If you read your second reference, you will find that it states that the decline in homicides is not due to Bolsonaro (it started before he got into office) - in fact, it states that certain types of murder have had increased rates.

echelon 7y ago

Brazil has one of the highest murder rates in the world. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_by_murder_rate I'm not an expert, but at face value I'm not sure their system is effective. I'd like to see data on reoffenders and deterrence.

brazilman123 7y ago

Brazil has a big crime problem, a huge murder rate. There are people who simply aren't fit to be in society. There are people who get out of prison after their 5 years of good behavior, and immediately a week later are raping someone again. Why do the victims have less value than the violent murderer/rapist criminals? It is simply shocking to me you think it's ok for murderers to be out of jail if they have a job. What do you propose to do about this, besides blaming Bolsonaro - btw the criminals already all have guns, it's only the lawful citizens who have a hard time getting them. There's a reason everyone in brazil has to hide behind electric fences, security systems, etc.

curiouswanderer 7y ago

The law is too lax. I also want to kill someone and then my sentence reduced to 1/6. In fact, I'd like to rob all brazilians from their taxpayer money through my corrupt construction company and then go to "home prison" at my 32 million square feet mansion without giving a single dime back. That's what I call a good application of the law! All hail the "great success" that it is.

epx 7y ago

You are being ironic, right?

superflit 7y ago
Sure I was!! But we always have some "activists" that take some "edge" case and try to stretch it to all cases. We have to focus on the real victims not on people that ganged and killed someone cold blood.

timlod 7y ago

If you read your second reference, you will find that it states that the decline in homicides is not due to Bolsonaro (it started before he got into office) - in fact, it states that certain types of murder have had increased rates.