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> DevOps means the veteran admins had to check in their personal scripts Oh my, this is an epiphany. I don't even know what DevOps means. But if the implicati
by jancsika 7y ago
> DevOps means the veteran admins had to check in their personal scripts
Oh my, this is an epiphany.
I don't even know what DevOps means. But if the implication was that the "veteran admin" was making arbitrary state changes and is now forced by DevOps to document it in the commit history, I am firmly in favor of whatever DevOps is.
- wodenokoto 7y agoMy understanding is that devops are the veteran admin, only now they check-in their code.
- Nursie 7y agoWhat it was supposed to be - Software development, deployment and ops come under the same role. The DevOps engineer controls the horizontal and the vertical, the code, the environment, the build, the deployment, and as such is a multi-talented unicorn. What it seems to have become - Sysadmins writing scripts around terraform, and formalising their work to the extent that it is at least usually reproducible.
- orthoxerox 7y ago> a multi-talented unicorn. That's not necessary. Natural curiosity and willingness to treat dev/ops (whichever is not your team) as us, not them, is sufficient.
- Nursie 7y agoI'm not sure I've seen that be any more prevalent now than it was when we had developers and sysadmins. To me it's become like 'agile' and interesting set of viewpoints and philosophies totally ruined by the industry that's grown around it.
- orthoxerox 7y agoWell, at least the DevOps industry brings actual value to the process (well, not when you are sold OpenStack, OpenShift, Vault and whatever else to run a single container image).
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