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Pressed about his life story, Little traced the urge to kill to his youth. He said he got his first erection in kindergarten when he watched his teacher touch h

by e40 7y ago

Pressed about his life story, Little traced the urge to kill to his youth. He said he got his first erection in kindergarten when he watched his teacher touch her neck. Later in grade school, he dreamed of killing a girl who stroked her neck while teasing him. He said it, but I have trouble believing that. There had to be something before that, perhaps something too far back to remember?

Enginerrrd 7y ago
It shouldn't be that hard to believe. The reality is some people are born with biologically or structurally dysfunctional brains. Is it hard for you to believe that someone could be born with schizophrenia? What about autism? What about poor impulse control? When you think about the complicated interplay of social interaction in HEALTHY humans, which includes their innate capacity for violence (We definitely are part hunters with a propensity for war), and you compare the things we know that can go wrong and produce mental deficits of one form or another, it really shouldn't be that surprising that some people in the population would also be born with distinctly anti-social tendencies of one form or another. Brains are complicated... there's all kinds of interesting things that happen too that may be related. For example, the disgust response of humans is typically lessened or even reversed during sexual arousal. So you can have almost a complete flip in behavior depending on context! The regions of the brain responsible for aggression and sexual arousal are also really close together and related. So is this really that much of a stretch?
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- johnisgood 7y ago
  You are not "born" with any of these. You are born with a genetic predisposition, for example with genetic variants that increase the risk of schizophrenia, but there are no certainties. It is an interplay between genetics and the environment, both genetic and environmental factors play a role in the development. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia#Causes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia#Causes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics_of_schizophrenia#Schizophrenia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics_of_schizophrenia#S... [...]
rjf72 7y ago
Let's imagine a hypothetical. Imagine we take a fresh planet, mostly identical to Earth. And we populate it with 1 billion infants, a billion robotic baby sitters, and no external influence. Our robotic Rosies will all behave identically and simply ensure the children do not starve and receive a homogeneous education. All will also be raised in mostly homogeneous settings. Do you believe that there would be no murderers, or others engaged in grossly deviant behavior in this world? It's a fun thought experiment for quite a lot of social (and economic) issues really because it makes you consider notions of nurture vs nature and how many things are likely to emerge even without the preconditions which we have which do make them much more likely. For instance I'd certainly agree if we took 1% of our Rosies and forced them to sexually and physically abuse their charges, we'd certainly see a much larger ratio of those 1% end up as psychopaths, but that doesn't preclude the fact that, as I think you'd agree, you'd also certainly see plenty of psychopaths within the other 99% as well.
- Judgmentality 7y ago
  It's also possible he's just lying. If he's naturally a psychopath like you say, doesn't that mean he's predisposed towards lying? It's not like he's punished for lying or rewarded for telling the truth - we really have no way to corroborate any of this. I'm not saying your theory isn't plausible, but what makes it any more likely than him just lying?
- rendall 7y ago
  >> Let's imagine a hypothetical. Imagine we take a fresh planet, mostly identical to Earth. And we populate it with 1 billion infants, a billion robotic baby sitters, and no external influence. Our robotic Rosies will all behave identically and simply ensure the children do not starve and receive a homogeneous education. All will also be raised in mostly homogeneous settings. Do you believe that there would be no murderers, or others engaged in grossly deviant behavior in this world? << ... This hypothetical enacted would directly result in chaos. There is no possibility of raising human beings to be civilized without human beings doing the raising.

by e40 7y ago

Enginerrrd 7y ago

It shouldn't be that hard to believe. The reality is some people are born with biologically or structurally dysfunctional brains. Is it hard for you to believe that someone could be born with schizophrenia? What about autism? What about poor impulse control? When you think about the complicated interplay of social interaction in HEALTHY humans, which includes their innate capacity for violence (We definitely are part hunters with a propensity for war), and you compare the things we know that can go wrong and produce mental deficits of one form or another, it really shouldn't be that surprising that some people in the population would also be born with distinctly anti-social tendencies of one form or another. Brains are complicated... there's all kinds of interesting things that happen too that may be related. For example, the disgust response of humans is typically lessened or even reversed during sexual arousal. So you can have almost a complete flip in behavior depending on context! The regions of the brain responsible for aggression and sexual arousal are also really close together and related. So is this really that much of a stretch?

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johnisgood 7y ago
You are not "born" with any of these. You are born with a genetic predisposition, for example with genetic variants that increase the risk of schizophrenia, but there are no certainties. It is an interplay between genetics and the environment, both genetic and environmental factors play a role in the development. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia#Causes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schizophrenia#Causes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics_of_schizophrenia#Schizophrenia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics_of_schizophrenia#S... [...]

rjf72 7y ago

Let's imagine a hypothetical. Imagine we take a fresh planet, mostly identical to Earth. And we populate it with 1 billion infants, a billion robotic baby sitters, and no external influence. Our robotic Rosies will all behave identically and simply ensure the children do not starve and receive a homogeneous education. All will also be raised in mostly homogeneous settings. Do you believe that there would be no murderers, or others engaged in grossly deviant behavior in this world? It's a fun thought experiment for quite a lot of social (and economic) issues really because it makes you consider notions of nurture vs nature and how many things are likely to emerge even without the preconditions which we have which do make them much more likely. For instance I'd certainly agree if we took 1% of our Rosies and forced them to sexually and physically abuse their charges, we'd certainly see a much larger ratio of those 1% end up as psychopaths, but that doesn't preclude the fact that, as I think you'd agree, you'd also certainly see plenty of psychopaths within the other 99% as well.

Judgmentality 7y ago
It's also possible he's just lying. If he's naturally a psychopath like you say, doesn't that mean he's predisposed towards lying? It's not like he's punished for lying or rewarded for telling the truth - we really have no way to corroborate any of this. I'm not saying your theory isn't plausible, but what makes it any more likely than him just lying?
rendall 7y ago
>> Let's imagine a hypothetical. Imagine we take a fresh planet, mostly identical to Earth. And we populate it with 1 billion infants, a billion robotic baby sitters, and no external influence. Our robotic Rosies will all behave identically and simply ensure the children do not starve and receive a homogeneous education. All will also be raised in mostly homogeneous settings. Do you believe that there would be no murderers, or others engaged in grossly deviant behavior in this world? << ... This hypothetical enacted would directly result in chaos. There is no possibility of raising human beings to be civilized without human beings doing the raising.