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This is great news. After a decade of stagnation [1], an exploit that in theory allows Linux (and Android) to be ported to iPhone, iPads, Apple Watches, and I b

This is great news. After a decade of stagnation [1], an exploit that in theory allows Linux (and Android) to be ported to iPhone, iPads, Apple Watches, and I believe, Apple TV. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpeniBoot https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpeniBoot

rwmj 7y ago
Why wouldn't you just buy a rootable Android device in the first place? Cheaper, better phones and far less hassle to install your own OS on.
- emilfihlman 7y ago
  Why wouldn't you want to run doom/linux on all the devices?
- rvz 7y ago
  Perhaps you wouldn't need to buy another separate Android device, since a iPhone dual-booting Android could make it the best supported Android device since the Pixel.
- BubRoss 7y ago
  Nothing comes close to apple's ARM CPUs.
  - cromwellian 7y ago
    Most of the performance of which is irrelevent, because the apps have to run on the lowest common denominator iPhone. This is not like Desktop PCs where a game might run at less than 60fps at a certain monitor resolution, iPhone software is more like the console market, so it's like saying you have a new PS4 model with 2x the speed of last years model. You're not likely going to notice the difference except at the edges, like launching apps are slightly faster. Apple's fan base, prior to the A6, used to be 'specs don't mstter', but once Apple got the lead in CPU speed, now specs matter. I think for most people the former is probably true. A faster phone doesn't make your Facebook, Snapchat, iMessage, Instagram, etc experience much better and lets be honest, people are spending the majority of time in those apps.
    - unix_fan 7y ago
      Performance isn't the only area where apple chips are superior. Power efficiency is another, and that's a lot more noticeable to your general consumer.
    - zepto 7y ago
      You’ll notice when loading web pages.
- oeo82vc 7y ago
  How are you qualifying better? I had three Nexus Android phones go sideways on me in their first year, over a span of 4 years. I have had two iPhones since 2014, and only because I dropped the first one. If I have to spend $300-$400 on replacements every couple years, I’ll go with $800 every 4-5
  - bufferoverflow 7y ago
    The last Nexus phone was made in 2015, and they were known for being bad (bootloop). There are tons of really solid Android phones that work for years. Even the cheap chinese ones from unknown brands are solid these days. I also replace them only because I broke the screen. With Android you have a choice of the specs - bigger battery, better camera, tough build, fast charging. With the iPhone you get an average meh for not so average price.
    - MiroF 7y ago
      Eh - anecdotal but my pixel just turned off and never turned on again about a year and a half into use (without water damage). I still have my working iPod touch from like 2011.
      - Osiris 7y ago
        Anecdotal but my MyTouch 3G (2009) and LG G2 (2013) still work just fine. Both are rooted with custom ROMs.
      - kuzimoto 7y ago
        More anecdotes, still have my Nexus 4 kicking around. Just switched from my Pixel 1 after about 3 years since I cracked the screen.
    - oeo82vc 7y ago
      Glad you found something that works for you.
  - Yetanfou 7y ago
    Better value for money, bigger battery, better screen (Samsung), more memory (most devices), more storage, expandable storage, standard interface (all devices), no legal liabilities related to 'hacking' the device, better camera (Samsung, Pixel), more choice in form factor, need I go on? What did you do with those phones that they 'went sideways'? I have a number of Motorola Defy phones which are between 8 and 9 years old, they still work fine. My daughter left one of those Defy's in her pocket when she put her jeans in the washing machine, it went through a full washing cycle and still worked except for the ear piece which I replaced at a total cost of $0.50 in parts (I bought 10 for $5 including shipping, anyone need a Defy earpiece?). I only ended up buying a newer device (Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 with many of the mentioned advantages) because the Swedish electronic ID supplier stopped supporting Android 4.4. I also have an Ainol Novo Advanced 8 Android tablet from 2010, still works fine albeit with a somewhat limited battery time. Apple makes slick devices but the slickness comes with a downside: they are among the most vulnerable devices out there, usually ending up in the bottom legion when it comes to ability to survive rough treatment [1]. Repairs end up being extremely expensive due to the enforced single supplier rule - only Apple is 'allowed' to repair the device, iOS contains checks for 'unauthorised' repairs. For the price of a single screen repair on an iPhone X ($279) I can buy a new phone for myself and for my daughter (who has a Xiaomi Redmi 4X), 'other' repairs cost $549 which is enough for new devices for the whole family. In short, Apple is the more expensive choice. If you think they're worth their price you should buy them but that does not negate the fact that you're paying more for a more fragile device with limited repair options. [1] https://macworld.idg.se/2.1038/1.692054/iphone-x-en-tickande-tapp-bomb---den-omtaligaste-iphone-nagonsin https://macworld.idg.se/2.1038/1.692054/iphone-x-en-tickande...
- derefr 7y ago
  To reuse/repurpose old devices you still have laying around. Which is much of the reason for Linux support on most unusual architectures, really.
- ryeights 7y ago
  For fun!
_underfl0w_ 7y ago
I can't wait to see an iPhone X natively running DOOM.
- lostgame 7y ago
  $6.99 CAD in the App Store? https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/doom/id336347946 https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/doom/id336347946
ValentineC 7y ago
> After a decade of stagnation, an exploit that in theory allows Linux (and Android) to be ported to iPhone, iPads, Apple Watches, and I believe, Apple TV. There was some discussion about this on r/jailbreak, and it comes down to whether the community is willing to reverse-engineer and write drivers for the various hardware: https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/d9yyit/release_introducing_checkm8_read_checkmate_a/f1m632f/ https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/d9yyit/release_i...

rwmj 7y ago

Why wouldn't you just buy a rootable Android device in the first place? Cheaper, better phones and far less hassle to install your own OS on.

emilfihlman 7y ago
Why wouldn't you want to run doom/linux on all the devices?
rvz 7y ago
Perhaps you wouldn't need to buy another separate Android device, since a iPhone dual-booting Android could make it the best supported Android device since the Pixel.
BubRoss 7y ago
Nothing comes close to apple's ARM CPUs.
- cromwellian 7y ago
  Most of the performance of which is irrelevent, because the apps have to run on the lowest common denominator iPhone. This is not like Desktop PCs where a game might run at less than 60fps at a certain monitor resolution, iPhone software is more like the console market, so it's like saying you have a new PS4 model with 2x the speed of last years model. You're not likely going to notice the difference except at the edges, like launching apps are slightly faster. Apple's fan base, prior to the A6, used to be 'specs don't mstter', but once Apple got the lead in CPU speed, now specs matter. I think for most people the former is probably true. A faster phone doesn't make your Facebook, Snapchat, iMessage, Instagram, etc experience much better and lets be honest, people are spending the majority of time in those apps.
  - unix_fan 7y ago
    Performance isn't the only area where apple chips are superior. Power efficiency is another, and that's a lot more noticeable to your general consumer.
  - zepto 7y ago
    You’ll notice when loading web pages.
oeo82vc 7y ago
How are you qualifying better? I had three Nexus Android phones go sideways on me in their first year, over a span of 4 years. I have had two iPhones since 2014, and only because I dropped the first one. If I have to spend $300-$400 on replacements every couple years, I’ll go with $800 every 4-5
- bufferoverflow 7y ago
  The last Nexus phone was made in 2015, and they were known for being bad (bootloop). There are tons of really solid Android phones that work for years. Even the cheap chinese ones from unknown brands are solid these days. I also replace them only because I broke the screen. With Android you have a choice of the specs - bigger battery, better camera, tough build, fast charging. With the iPhone you get an average meh for not so average price.
  - MiroF 7y ago
    Eh - anecdotal but my pixel just turned off and never turned on again about a year and a half into use (without water damage). I still have my working iPod touch from like 2011.
    - Osiris 7y ago
      Anecdotal but my MyTouch 3G (2009) and LG G2 (2013) still work just fine. Both are rooted with custom ROMs.
    - kuzimoto 7y ago
      More anecdotes, still have my Nexus 4 kicking around. Just switched from my Pixel 1 after about 3 years since I cracked the screen.
  - oeo82vc 7y ago
    Glad you found something that works for you.
- Yetanfou 7y ago
  Better value for money, bigger battery, better screen (Samsung), more memory (most devices), more storage, expandable storage, standard interface (all devices), no legal liabilities related to 'hacking' the device, better camera (Samsung, Pixel), more choice in form factor, need I go on? What did you do with those phones that they 'went sideways'? I have a number of Motorola Defy phones which are between 8 and 9 years old, they still work fine. My daughter left one of those Defy's in her pocket when she put her jeans in the washing machine, it went through a full washing cycle and still worked except for the ear piece which I replaced at a total cost of $0.50 in parts (I bought 10 for $5 including shipping, anyone need a Defy earpiece?). I only ended up buying a newer device (Xiaomi Redmi Note 5 with many of the mentioned advantages) because the Swedish electronic ID supplier stopped supporting Android 4.4. I also have an Ainol Novo Advanced 8 Android tablet from 2010, still works fine albeit with a somewhat limited battery time. Apple makes slick devices but the slickness comes with a downside: they are among the most vulnerable devices out there, usually ending up in the bottom legion when it comes to ability to survive rough treatment [1]. Repairs end up being extremely expensive due to the enforced single supplier rule - only Apple is 'allowed' to repair the device, iOS contains checks for 'unauthorised' repairs. For the price of a single screen repair on an iPhone X ($279) I can buy a new phone for myself and for my daughter (who has a Xiaomi Redmi 4X), 'other' repairs cost $549 which is enough for new devices for the whole family. In short, Apple is the more expensive choice. If you think they're worth their price you should buy them but that does not negate the fact that you're paying more for a more fragile device with limited repair options. [1] https://macworld.idg.se/2.1038/1.692054/iphone-x-en-tickande-tapp-bomb---den-omtaligaste-iphone-nagonsin https://macworld.idg.se/2.1038/1.692054/iphone-x-en-tickande...
derefr 7y ago
To reuse/repurpose old devices you still have laying around. Which is much of the reason for Linux support on most unusual architectures, really.
ryeights 7y ago
For fun!

_underfl0w_ 7y ago

I can't wait to see an iPhone X natively running DOOM.

lostgame 7y ago
$6.99 CAD in the App Store? https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/doom/id336347946 https://apps.apple.com/ca/app/doom/id336347946

ValentineC 7y ago

> After a decade of stagnation, an exploit that in theory allows Linux (and Android) to be ported to iPhone, iPads, Apple Watches, and I believe, Apple TV. There was some discussion about this on r/jailbreak, and it comes down to whether the community is willing to reverse-engineer and write drivers for the various hardware: https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/d9yyit/release_introducing_checkm8_read_checkmate_a/f1m632f/ https://www.reddit.com/r/jailbreak/comments/d9yyit/release_i...