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There are few things that piss me off more then finding papers paywalled for research that was done using public funds.. There should be a law against that!

by jascii 7y ago

einpoklum 7y ago
You're forgetting that it's the copyright owners who get laws passed. That's how copyright began in the first place! It was "The Statute of Anne": Restrictions on book printing due to lobbying by the printers.
- throwaway2048 7y ago
  They aren't the only force in lawmaking.
- __MatrixMan__ 7y ago
  Was it the printers? I thought it was the church trying to crack down on the publication of the wrong variant of the Bible. Even if it was the printers, they weren't copyright holders at the time because there was no such thing as copyright before the law was passed. That aside, it would be the authors that were there copyright holders, not the printers. Copyright has always been about middle-men trying to control the flow of information. If it has benefitted content creators, it has done so only incidentally--because censorship laws are hard to stomach without a little sweetener.
foobarbecue 7y ago
It is, in progressive states & countries. E.g. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/10/open-access-law-california https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/10/open-access-law-califo... and https://blogs.plos.org/plos/2018/09/open-access-publishing-forges-ahead-in-europe/ https://blogs.plos.org/plos/2018/09/open-access-publishing-f...
acomjean 7y ago
There are some funding sources that require open publications (NIH (National Institute of Health) in the US (United States)). https://publicaccess.nih.gov/ https://publicaccess.nih.gov/ The downside is there is usually a fee to some publications to make your article public. Also having submitted data to pubchem (https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/), its kinda automated, but there are some very professional/helpful staff there that will help you.
- panpanna 7y ago
  Open publication generally mean you have to pay even more to get it published. Thanks god more people are using arxiv.

There are few things that piss me off more then finding papers paywalled for research that was done using public funds.. There should be a law against that!

by jascii 7y ago

There are few things that piss me off more then finding papers paywalled for research that was done using public funds.. There should be a law against that!

einpoklum 7y ago

You're forgetting that it's the copyright owners who get laws passed. That's how copyright began in the first place! It was "The Statute of Anne": Restrictions on book printing due to lobbying by the printers.

throwaway2048 7y ago
They aren't the only force in lawmaking.
__MatrixMan__ 7y ago
Was it the printers? I thought it was the church trying to crack down on the publication of the wrong variant of the Bible. Even if it was the printers, they weren't copyright holders at the time because there was no such thing as copyright before the law was passed. That aside, it would be the authors that were there copyright holders, not the printers. Copyright has always been about middle-men trying to control the flow of information. If it has benefitted content creators, it has done so only incidentally--because censorship laws are hard to stomach without a little sweetener.

foobarbecue 7y ago

It is, in progressive states & countries. E.g. https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/10/open-access-law-california https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2018/10/open-access-law-califo... and https://blogs.plos.org/plos/2018/09/open-access-publishing-forges-ahead-in-europe/ https://blogs.plos.org/plos/2018/09/open-access-publishing-f...

acomjean 7y ago

There are some funding sources that require open publications (NIH (National Institute of Health) in the US (United States)). https://publicaccess.nih.gov/ https://publicaccess.nih.gov/ The downside is there is usually a fee to some publications to make your article public. Also having submitted data to pubchem (https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/ https://pubchem.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/), its kinda automated, but there are some very professional/helpful staff there that will help you.

panpanna 7y ago
Open publication generally mean you have to pay even more to get it published. Thanks god more people are using arxiv.