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Who would want to hire a candidate who cannot get through an interview without delving into their personal issues and giving sardonic, jaded answers? Hacker new
by gatherhunterer 7y ago
Who would want to hire a candidate who cannot get through an interview without delving into their personal issues and giving sardonic, jaded answers? Hacker news is big on edgy developers who insist that they can work hard, solve problems and get along with everyone. But if you ask them to explain how they do that they cry oppression.
- yoz-y 7y agoSometimes it does appear that the dream interview for many would be: Read my CV and hire me because I did a lot of stuff at company X already.
- ChuckNorris89 7y agoThat's pretty much how you get hired in Europe as nobody does leetcode and rarely you get whiteboard or take home problems. If you have enough experience at some prestigious company, the job is already yours, the on site interview is pretty much a formality to discuss salary expectations and screen for red flags.
- yoz-y 7y agoI am from Europe and I had a bit of everything. But generally I agree, even when I was conducting the interviews, it was mostly to verify that what was written on the CV was reflected in reality.
- malvosenior 7y agoThat’s a great way to hire someone. Have they produced quality product? Hire. Culture games like this speak more about the toxicity of the employer than anything about the employee. Do you really think subjective questions like this as interpreted by hr or a random manager say anything? It’s purely a power play against the prospective employee. Good managers can manage all kinds of people. Culture fit is just looking for koolaide drinkers.
- izacus 7y agoGoogle hiers plenty of people out of college who didn't produce a product yet. I'm guessing they want to avoid excluding all of them.
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- malvosenior 7y agoI do expect that even people fresh out of school to have made at least one interesting personal project.
- yoz-y 7y agoPart of the whole diversity thing is to also hire people who do not have programming in their list of hobbies. When I was at uni it was more common than not that people did not have any personal projects.
- malvosenior 7y agoI haven't had good experiences hiring people who don't have personal projects. It's a strong signal that the person is self driven, can do requirements gathering and knows how to ship.
- yoz-y 7y agoWell, people can have other hobbies outside of programming though. Be it sports or something creative. I agree that, in general, people with personal programming projects fare better, but it is not a hard rule for me.
- izacus 7y agoA huge part of CVs are full of straight up lies. When I was interviewing there was practically no good value in a CV outside of initial screening and ideas for talking points.
- whenchamenia 7y agoI actively confront people about their lies, and they are blacklisted from being hired therefter. Do not lie on your CV no matter how common your idiot friends say it is. We can and will check if we care to, and a compny that doesnt care to verify your integrity, likely has little itself.