I think those are wrong too. I used to believe that way, but having worked in the tech industry for over 10 years now, I've been around the block and I see it f

I think those are wrong too. I used to believe that way, but having worked in the tech industry for over 10 years now, I've been around the block and I see it for what it really is -- taking advantage of others. You can try and wrap it up however you want with a pretty bow of "changing the world" but if you have to take advantage of people as a business or institution, it's still taking advantage of people. At best it's hiding the true cost of something by not paying people what they are worth. Pay people what they are worth! You don't have to pay Netflix salary but it at least needs to be in the range of market rate. It disturbs me that there are those here on HN that seem to fetishize suffering when there are so many resources. People don't need to suffer needlessly to do good work and get things done and "change the world". In fact, when you allow people to live a decent life you'll find they are happier and more productive employees.