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We know for sure that at least the radar from E-2C Hawkeye plane in the area that had returned was confiscated by plainclothes officials who landed on the Nimit

We know for sure that at least the radar from E-2C Hawkeye plane in the area that had returned was confiscated by plainclothes officials who landed on the Nimitz via helicopter.

lolc 7y ago
How do "we" know this?
- typeformer 7y ago
  Because the guy on the plane responsible for the data testified on camera that he was instructed to grab the the "bricks" (specialized hard drives) immediately upon landing and they were then confiscated and quickly flown off of the carrier rather than being stored in the safe as per usual. Watch Histoy's Unidentified series.
  - lolc 7y ago
    Oh ok. I don't trust that story. Sounds like somebody is embellishing if not inventing things. It's unfortunate but this is my general experience with UFO events that get publicized. People confabulate stories that fit the alien origin and government conspiracy narrative. Time to slink out now for me. I derive some entertainment from the puzzling over what a UFO might be. The ensuing unwarranted speculation into alien origins puts me off. And the people who posit a government conspiracy tend to assume just those origins.
saul_goodman 7y ago
In all of this, folks should just go back to this interview with one of the pilots (Commander Fravor) who was one of the 4 people who actually saw the tic-tac thing first hand. Even he calls BS on some of the claims others involved (radar and technicians) have made. So, I would be careful about accepting some of the less directly involved parts of the 2004 story at face value. This doesn't diminish the incident at all, just shows how incidents like this can become twisted over time. This jumps to some of his comments about the other folks involved in the story: https://youtu.be/f7XJD_54aNk?t=549 https://youtu.be/f7XJD_54aNk?t=549 Another part of what he says: https://youtu.be/f7XJD_54aNk?t=1868 https://youtu.be/f7XJD_54aNk?t=1868 Say what you will of Corbel, but the entire 2 hours of interview are worth watching, Fravor is about as solid of a person to report this as you can get.

We know for sure that at least the radar from E-2C Hawkeye plane in the area that had returned was confiscated by plainclothes officials who landed on the Nimitz via helicopter.

lolc 7y ago

How do "we" know this?

typeformer 7y ago
Because the guy on the plane responsible for the data testified on camera that he was instructed to grab the the "bricks" (specialized hard drives) immediately upon landing and they were then confiscated and quickly flown off of the carrier rather than being stored in the safe as per usual. Watch Histoy's Unidentified series.
- lolc 7y ago
  Oh ok. I don't trust that story. Sounds like somebody is embellishing if not inventing things. It's unfortunate but this is my general experience with UFO events that get publicized. People confabulate stories that fit the alien origin and government conspiracy narrative. Time to slink out now for me. I derive some entertainment from the puzzling over what a UFO might be. The ensuing unwarranted speculation into alien origins puts me off. And the people who posit a government conspiracy tend to assume just those origins.

saul_goodman 7y ago

In all of this, folks should just go back to this interview with one of the pilots (Commander Fravor) who was one of the 4 people who actually saw the tic-tac thing first hand. Even he calls BS on some of the claims others involved (radar and technicians) have made. So, I would be careful about accepting some of the less directly involved parts of the 2004 story at face value. This doesn't diminish the incident at all, just shows how incidents like this can become twisted over time. This jumps to some of his comments about the other folks involved in the story: https://youtu.be/f7XJD_54aNk?t=549 https://youtu.be/f7XJD_54aNk?t=549 Another part of what he says: https://youtu.be/f7XJD_54aNk?t=1868 https://youtu.be/f7XJD_54aNk?t=1868 Say what you will of Corbel, but the entire 2 hours of interview are worth watching, Fravor is about as solid of a person to report this as you can get.