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Prohibition is a failure. It has been for a long time. How much longer do you propose we should keep failing at it before we give up and try a different approac

Prohibition is a failure. It has been for a long time. How much longer do you propose we should keep failing at it before we give up and try a different approach?

ptyyy 7y ago
The 18th Amendment sure did make things more peaceful and everyone totally abided by it, right guys? Right???
ineedasername 7y ago
If you did more than scan for keywords and respond with flame bait, you'd see I'm all for making it legal. But in the meantime, if people are getting sick and dying from using the illegal stuff, it makes sense to avoid it. My point was that the two opinions aren't mutually exclusive.
- mullingitover 7y ago
  If you were advocating abstaining from black market products your comment would make sense, but saying "keep everything like it is right now" is saying that we should continue to have unregulated product on the market. Best intentions aside, abstinence isn't happening.
  - ineedasername 7y ago
    And where did I say "keep everything as it is" now? Perhaps I should have been clearer: by prohibition in this context, because we already have legal prohibition, i.e., it's against the law, I meant in the vein of abstinence, that we should be telling people "don't do it".
    - mullingitover 7y ago
      We don't exactly have prohibition. We have a perverse, contradictory patchwork of state level legalization, federal level prohibition that overrules the state legalization efforts, federal prohibitions on enforcing federal prohibition laws in states that have legalized, and then in some states, outright prohibition (with black market product flowing in every state regardless). It's prohibiting the FDA from providing common-sense regulation to provide safe product. We already tell people "don't do it." That's a failed policy that's producing hundreds of sick people. We need to make harm reduction via regulation the default case.
      - ineedasername 7y ago
        "> We need to make harm reduction via regulation the default case." Yes, it seems we basically agree. Which means we're just arguing over my initially poor choice of words. Sorry!
        mullingitover 7y ago
        I had a feeling. No worries, happy Friday :)

Prohibition is a failure. It has been for a long time. How much longer do you propose we should keep failing at it before we give up and try a different approach?

ptyyy 7y ago

The 18th Amendment sure did make things more peaceful and everyone totally abided by it, right guys? Right???

ineedasername 7y ago

If you did more than scan for keywords and respond with flame bait, you'd see I'm all for making it legal. But in the meantime, if people are getting sick and dying from using the illegal stuff, it makes sense to avoid it. My point was that the two opinions aren't mutually exclusive.

mullingitover 7y ago
If you were advocating abstaining from black market products your comment would make sense, but saying "keep everything like it is right now" is saying that we should continue to have unregulated product on the market. Best intentions aside, abstinence isn't happening.
- ineedasername 7y ago
  And where did I say "keep everything as it is" now? Perhaps I should have been clearer: by prohibition in this context, because we already have legal prohibition, i.e., it's against the law, I meant in the vein of abstinence, that we should be telling people "don't do it".
  - mullingitover 7y ago
    We don't exactly have prohibition. We have a perverse, contradictory patchwork of state level legalization, federal level prohibition that overrules the state legalization efforts, federal prohibitions on enforcing federal prohibition laws in states that have legalized, and then in some states, outright prohibition (with black market product flowing in every state regardless). It's prohibiting the FDA from providing common-sense regulation to provide safe product. We already tell people "don't do it." That's a failed policy that's producing hundreds of sick people. We need to make harm reduction via regulation the default case.
    - ineedasername 7y ago
      "> We need to make harm reduction via regulation the default case." Yes, it seems we basically agree. Which means we're just arguing over my initially poor choice of words. Sorry!
      - mullingitover 7y ago
        I had a feeling. No worries, happy Friday :)