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> If Google tried to charge for background playback on desktop To be fair premium includes lots of things, including unlimited music streaming ala Spotify, ad

> If Google tried to charge for background playback on desktop To be fair premium includes lots of things, including unlimited music streaming ala Spotify, ad free YouTube etc. You’re not paying only for the background playback. Literally no one would be willing to pay for that. It’s just a minor perk, that’s all. A perk you said you’d be willing to risk JBing your (expensive) phone over. Most people would probably be more willing to just pay the fee for what is a fairly decent music streaming service.

Bootvis 7y ago
I just don’t like being extorted.
- koolba 7y ago
  Neither do I but it's not even the extortion part that prevents me for signing up for a service like that. It's knowing that they will link my viewing habits to my Google account and never delete them.
apostacy 7y ago
You COULD play YouTube videos in the background by default in Safari up until about summer 2016. Then, they sneakily added a hook that kills it if it loses focus. But sometimes there's a race condition or something and it doesn't take, so videos will still play audio in the background sometimes, and you could fool it for awhile by requesting desktop version of the YouTube page. Point is, this was there by default, and they intentionally sabotaged it to force you to use their paid service. This is shitty malware-like behavior and I do not want to encourage them. I would not give them a single cent and I happily spent time to defeat it, because fuck them.
- josteink 7y ago
  In your outrage, you are completely missing the point. I don’t care about anything you’re saying here about how things are or were. Really. Not one bit. I was merely saying that for that -one- particular reason for jailbreaking, a much simpler alternative exist (from a layman perspective). That’s really just factual information, contributing to the discussion if you like, and downvoting me because you have grudge with Google and Apple is utterly misguided.

Bootvis 7y ago

I just don’t like being extorted.

koolba 7y ago
Neither do I but it's not even the extortion part that prevents me for signing up for a service like that. It's knowing that they will link my viewing habits to my Google account and never delete them.

apostacy 7y ago

You COULD play YouTube videos in the background by default in Safari up until about summer 2016. Then, they sneakily added a hook that kills it if it loses focus. But sometimes there's a race condition or something and it doesn't take, so videos will still play audio in the background sometimes, and you could fool it for awhile by requesting desktop version of the YouTube page. Point is, this was there by default, and they intentionally sabotaged it to force you to use their paid service. This is shitty malware-like behavior and I do not want to encourage them. I would not give them a single cent and I happily spent time to defeat it, because fuck them.

josteink 7y ago
In your outrage, you are completely missing the point. I don’t care about anything you’re saying here about how things are or were. Really. Not one bit. I was merely saying that for that -one- particular reason for jailbreaking, a much simpler alternative exist (from a layman perspective). That’s really just factual information, contributing to the discussion if you like, and downvoting me because you have grudge with Google and Apple is utterly misguided.