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What difference does it make if someone willingly gives up your personal information, or someone is tricked into giving up your information? Either way, people

by dx87 7y ago

What difference does it make if someone willingly gives up your personal information, or someone is tricked into giving up your information? Either way, people who didn't consent had their information collected by a political campaign, which is what everyone was upset about with Cambridge Analytica.

enraged_camel 7y ago
>>What difference does it make if someone willingly gives up your personal information, or someone is tricked into giving up your information? We must really have gone off the deep end here, because I can no longer tell who is trolling and who is posting for real. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and answer your question in good faith: whether you willingly give your information, or are tricked into giving it, makes a world of difference. The only thing in common between the way the Obama campaign utilized Facebook data and the way Cambridge utilized the data is that, in both cases, the users sharing the data (whether willingly, or without realizing) also unwittingly provided access to their friend's data. That's where the similarities end. But no, the real reason most people were angry at Cambridge Analytica is that it (quite possibly illegally) obtained the data from Aleksandr Kogan, one of the researchers in Cambridge University who developed the original app. Furthermore, when Facebook noticed this and told them to delete the data, they did not. THAT is the real scandal.
- cameronbrown 7y ago
  How many people agree that Facebook is a severe privacy violation, even though you've "willingly given consent"? Did people really, understand what was being used of their data? Vast majority of people didn't even know what targeted ads are (obviously no longer the case, hence CA outrage).
- drusepth 7y ago
  >I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and answer your question in good faith: whether you willingly give your information, or are tricked into giving it, makes a world of difference. The comment you're replying to is positing that question in the context of other people giving up your information, not you yourself giving that information up. In both cases, the users giving the data knew they were giving that data to someone on the Internet. Their friends, however, didn't. The friends of the (either willing or tricked) participants had their data given up, too. Those friends did not consent in either case. In that case, I don't think it matters whether your data was given away willingly by your friends or whether your friends were tricked into giving it away. It's just splitting hairs over who is at fault when it's wrong in both cases.
- losvedir 7y ago
  > I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and answer your question in good faith: whether you willingly give your information, or are tricked into giving it, makes a world of difference. No, not your information, their information. The post you're replying to is about the friends of the person using the app. In one case, the app user is tricked, in the other case the app user consents, but in both cases the vast majority of the data is from friends of the user, who had no say either way.

by dx87 7y ago

enraged_camel 7y ago

>>What difference does it make if someone willingly gives up your personal information, or someone is tricked into giving up your information? We must really have gone off the deep end here, because I can no longer tell who is trolling and who is posting for real. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and answer your question in good faith: whether you willingly give your information, or are tricked into giving it, makes a world of difference. The only thing in common between the way the Obama campaign utilized Facebook data and the way Cambridge utilized the data is that, in both cases, the users sharing the data (whether willingly, or without realizing) also unwittingly provided access to their friend's data. That's where the similarities end. But no, the real reason most people were angry at Cambridge Analytica is that it (quite possibly illegally) obtained the data from Aleksandr Kogan, one of the researchers in Cambridge University who developed the original app. Furthermore, when Facebook noticed this and told them to delete the data, they did not. THAT is the real scandal.

cameronbrown 7y ago
How many people agree that Facebook is a severe privacy violation, even though you've "willingly given consent"? Did people really, understand what was being used of their data? Vast majority of people didn't even know what targeted ads are (obviously no longer the case, hence CA outrage).
drusepth 7y ago
>I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and answer your question in good faith: whether you willingly give your information, or are tricked into giving it, makes a world of difference. The comment you're replying to is positing that question in the context of other people giving up your information, not you yourself giving that information up. In both cases, the users giving the data knew they were giving that data to someone on the Internet. Their friends, however, didn't. The friends of the (either willing or tricked) participants had their data given up, too. Those friends did not consent in either case. In that case, I don't think it matters whether your data was given away willingly by your friends or whether your friends were tricked into giving it away. It's just splitting hairs over who is at fault when it's wrong in both cases.
losvedir 7y ago
> I'll give you the benefit of the doubt and answer your question in good faith: whether you willingly give your information, or are tricked into giving it, makes a world of difference. No, not your information, their information. The post you're replying to is about the friends of the person using the app. In one case, the app user is tricked, in the other case the app user consents, but in both cases the vast majority of the data is from friends of the user, who had no say either way.