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V... sign...

by epicwhaleburger 7y ago

V... sign...

rhacker 7y ago
I guess the peace sign wasn't as universal like we thought...
- Izkata 7y ago
  It's also used for "victory". I'd argue in millennials and younger, this is probably the more familiar use because of Pokemon.
  - user- 7y ago
    > I'd argue in millennials and younger, this is probably the more familiar use because of Pokemon. Sorry but this is not the case at all. Most millenials know it as a peace sign, none of them would think of pokemon.
  - kelnos 7y ago
    The "victory" meaning comes from WWII, not Pokemon. The hippie counter-culture movement in the 1960s co-opted it as the "peace" sign, but nowadays I'd argue it doesn't have much of a meaning, it's just "something people do for photos" (especially in East Asia).
- kwhitefoot 7y ago
  The V sign with palm facing the signer in British English means something like 'Fuck off'. All sorts of quite likely spurious history about archers insulting the French at Agincourt is used as a kind of etymology. With the palm facing the viewer it means peace now but it's rare to see it referred to as a V sign in the UK with this meaning. In WW II Churchill used it to mean Victory not peace but apparently started out used the insulting version and had to have the difference explained to him. Not sure if that is true or just apocryphal.
  - NeedMoreTea 7y ago
    There are many photos of Churchill performing the "incorrect" version, so there's at least a grain of truth in there. No doubt the posh school he went to didn't have the grubby little oiks running round the playground flicking the V's everywhere. Or grubby little oiks for that matter. :)
    - JetSpiegel 7y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign#/media/File:Winston_Churchill,_cigar_in_mouth,_gives_his_famous_'V'_for_victory_sign_during_a_visit_to_Bradford,_4_December_1942._H25966.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign#/media/File:Winston_Chu... This is great.
- _0ffh 7y ago
  I never even knew that it appears to be a peace sign in the US. In my (central European) country it is the victory sign for everyone I have talked to about it.
ptyyy 7y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign

V... sign...

rhacker 7y ago

I guess the peace sign wasn't as universal like we thought...

Izkata 7y ago
It's also used for "victory". I'd argue in millennials and younger, this is probably the more familiar use because of Pokemon.
- user- 7y ago
  > I'd argue in millennials and younger, this is probably the more familiar use because of Pokemon. Sorry but this is not the case at all. Most millenials know it as a peace sign, none of them would think of pokemon.
- kelnos 7y ago
  The "victory" meaning comes from WWII, not Pokemon. The hippie counter-culture movement in the 1960s co-opted it as the "peace" sign, but nowadays I'd argue it doesn't have much of a meaning, it's just "something people do for photos" (especially in East Asia).
kwhitefoot 7y ago
The V sign with palm facing the signer in British English means something like 'Fuck off'. All sorts of quite likely spurious history about archers insulting the French at Agincourt is used as a kind of etymology. With the palm facing the viewer it means peace now but it's rare to see it referred to as a V sign in the UK with this meaning. In WW II Churchill used it to mean Victory not peace but apparently started out used the insulting version and had to have the difference explained to him. Not sure if that is true or just apocryphal.
- NeedMoreTea 7y ago
  There are many photos of Churchill performing the "incorrect" version, so there's at least a grain of truth in there. No doubt the posh school he went to didn't have the grubby little oiks running round the playground flicking the V's everywhere. Or grubby little oiks for that matter. :)
  - JetSpiegel 7y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign#/media/File:Winston_Churchill,_cigar_in_mouth,_gives_his_famous_'V'_for_victory_sign_during_a_visit_to_Bradford,_4_December_1942._H25966.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign#/media/File:Winston_Chu... This is great.
_0ffh 7y ago
I never even knew that it appears to be a peace sign in the US. In my (central European) country it is the victory sign for everyone I have talked to about it.

ptyyy 7y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/V_sign