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I didn't know that, but this is much bigger news to me. I have been always told that the biggest reason to use FreeBSD is ZFS a long time ago. Things has been c

I didn't know that, but this is much bigger news to me. I have been always told that the biggest reason to use FreeBSD is ZFS a long time ago. Things has been changed that much since then.

vermaden 7y ago
On FreeBSD 11.x and 12.x (and older ones) the currently by default remains the old (not ZFS on Linux) ZFS implementation that has lots of FreeBSD additions like TRIM that was lacked on Linux. FreeBSD forked ZFS on Linux GitHub repo and now its called ZFS on FreeBSD. You can try it already by installing these two ports: - sysutils/zol - sysutils/openzfs-kmod Regards, vermaden
- ksec 7y ago
  >FreeBSD forked ZFS on Linux GitHub repo and now its called ZFS on FreeBSD. You can try it already by installing these two ports: Correct me if I am wrong, So we now have Oracle ZFS, FreeBSD ZFS, ZFS on Linux and ZFS on FreeBSD?
- JackMcMack 7y ago
  Damn, I could've used this a few weeks ago. I moved my NAS from bare Ubuntu + ZoL to FreeNAS, and got stuck on a read-only pool because of unsupported features such as userobj_accounting (1). I had to zfs send/receive to external drives and back again to work around this, which was annoying, to say the least. [1] http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Feature_Flags http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Feature_Flags
  - danudey 7y ago
    This is kind of standard faire though. I did a `zpool upgrade` on my root pool once and broke GRUB's ability to boot my system, since there were features enabled that it didn't understand (wouldn't have hurt anything to ignore, but GRUB wants to play it safe obviously).
morning_gelato 7y ago
I think FreeBSD still offers a more cohesive (and native) out of the box ZFS experience. For example, you do not need to worry about kernel upgrades/DKMS going sideways and breaking ZFS.
- danieldk 7y ago
  I didn't have any problems on NixOS thus far. Of course, it doesn't use or need DKMS. Also, doing a root on ZFS install was as simple as installing root on brtfs.
  - equalunique 7y ago
    Mind sharing what guide(s) you used? ZoL has always seemed like a moving target for me. The nice thing about Nix is it helps to manage problems like those.
    - danieldk 7y ago
      The wiki page: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS_on_ZFS https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS_on_ZFS

I didn't know that, but this is much bigger news to me. I have been always told that the biggest reason to use FreeBSD is ZFS a long time ago. Things has been changed that much since then.

vermaden 7y ago

On FreeBSD 11.x and 12.x (and older ones) the currently by default remains the old (not ZFS on Linux) ZFS implementation that has lots of FreeBSD additions like TRIM that was lacked on Linux. FreeBSD forked ZFS on Linux GitHub repo and now its called ZFS on FreeBSD. You can try it already by installing these two ports: - sysutils/zol - sysutils/openzfs-kmod Regards, vermaden

ksec 7y ago
>FreeBSD forked ZFS on Linux GitHub repo and now its called ZFS on FreeBSD. You can try it already by installing these two ports: Correct me if I am wrong, So we now have Oracle ZFS, FreeBSD ZFS, ZFS on Linux and ZFS on FreeBSD?
JackMcMack 7y ago
Damn, I could've used this a few weeks ago. I moved my NAS from bare Ubuntu + ZoL to FreeNAS, and got stuck on a read-only pool because of unsupported features such as userobj_accounting (1). I had to zfs send/receive to external drives and back again to work around this, which was annoying, to say the least. [1] http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Feature_Flags http://open-zfs.org/wiki/Feature_Flags
- danudey 7y ago
  This is kind of standard faire though. I did a `zpool upgrade` on my root pool once and broke GRUB's ability to boot my system, since there were features enabled that it didn't understand (wouldn't have hurt anything to ignore, but GRUB wants to play it safe obviously).

morning_gelato 7y ago

I think FreeBSD still offers a more cohesive (and native) out of the box ZFS experience. For example, you do not need to worry about kernel upgrades/DKMS going sideways and breaking ZFS.

danieldk 7y ago
I didn't have any problems on NixOS thus far. Of course, it doesn't use or need DKMS. Also, doing a root on ZFS install was as simple as installing root on brtfs.
- equalunique 7y ago
  Mind sharing what guide(s) you used? ZoL has always seemed like a moving target for me. The nice thing about Nix is it helps to manage problems like those.
  - danieldk 7y ago
    The wiki page: https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS_on_ZFS https://nixos.wiki/wiki/NixOS_on_ZFS