That's orthogonal to the conversation. The conversation was clearly about organised religion, i.e. specifically the Catholic Church (in Poland or Germany but a

That's orthogonal to the conversation. The conversation was clearly about organised religion, i.e. specifically the Catholic Church (in Poland or Germany but also in general as a larger entity). It doesn't get much more organised than the Catholic Church. It was also clear that "church" in this context is used in the sense of "a formal religious organisation", especially because churches as formal organisations are legal entities in these countries. What the term _originally meant_ is interesting but utterly irrelevant given that the meaning clearly doesn't match the intended meaning and the intended meaning is widely enough understood (and matches the Polish and German equivalent terminology). That said, linking to a website operated by a conservative Evangelical ministry that preaches Young Earth Creationism and considers Catholic "non-Christians" ... in a conversation that's primarily about the Catholic church ... is "funny" to say the least.