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> He's harassed and bothered dozens of women in and outside of MIT. No, he didn't. Thomas Lord who worked with him says > One remarkable thing about the FSF

> He's harassed and bothered dozens of women in and outside of MIT. No, he didn't. Thomas Lord who worked with him says > One remarkable thing about the FSF at that time, when we worked out of dinky spare offices on the campus of MIT, was the degree of participation by women. In the tiny society that was then the FSF, women were more prominent than I had seen in Silicon Valley, or acadamia prior. The general culture of inclusiveness and tolerance that RMS fostered meant that, at least when I was there alongside Bushnell, that social circle in and around the organization was feminized and all the stronger for it. https://archive.is/7qepC#selection-1243.1-1359.221 https://archive.is/7qepC#selection-1243.1-1359.221

sigzero 7y ago
Yes, he did. There are other articles mentioned here that prove it.
- lostjohnny 7y ago
  > Yes, he did. There are other articles mentioned here that prove it. Let's see them then. I'm sure there are real testimonies of real people.
jellicle 7y ago
> No, he didn't. Of course he did (and does). It's well known. Here's HN from 11 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20979343 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20979343 I have personally read, in the last few weeks, over a dozen statements by women who were driven out of FSF by Stallman. I don't even move in those circles. There must be many more who don't feel like speaking up and getting harassed by all the neckbeards. Richard Stallman, Knight for Justice - Also Hot Ladies https://miro.medium.com/max/4080/1*lDSkAjF1958TpEafxuJsLg.jpeg https://miro.medium.com/max/4080/1*lDSkAjF1958TpEafxuJsLg.jp...
- lostjohnny 7y ago
  > Of course he did (and does). It's well known. Here's HN from 11 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20979343 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20979343 And I've personally spoken with 4 of them that say the exact opposite. Drop some name please, accusations need proof. > I don't even move in those circles I do. > Richard Stallman, Knight for Justice - Also Hot Ladies Old joke, stupid sign, nothing severe, it's been there forever together with the sticker of Amnesty International (if you haven't noticed), nobody complained for ages, suddenly high paid engineers that without GCC wouldn't have the same high paid job complain that RMS makes them feel uncomfortable, even though they "don't even move in those circles" Let's be serious, please don't make me quote Roger Murtaugh.
  - throw0101a 7y ago
    > And I've personally spoken with 4 of them that say the exact opposite. The four that you know may not have attracted RMS' attention. > Drop some name please, accusations need proof. It's up to the alleged victims to go public, if they so wish, IMHO. (Though announcing un-sourced / anonymously-sourced claims isn't exactly a great thing either.)
    - lostjohnny 7y ago
      > The four that you know may not have attracted RMS' attention so he can control himself. He doesn't just throw himself at every woman that comes around. Just like the rest of us... > It's up to the alleged victims to go public Fact is, I don't think they even exist. Not because victims do no exist in general, but because at worse RMS has been weird or inappropriate, but dangerous, threatening, scary or violent? It never happened. I'm sure.
    - DATACOMMANDER 7y ago
      Anonymous accusations should be treated as worthless for obvious reasons.

sigzero 7y ago

Yes, he did. There are other articles mentioned here that prove it.

lostjohnny 7y ago
> Yes, he did. There are other articles mentioned here that prove it. Let's see them then. I'm sure there are real testimonies of real people.

jellicle 7y ago

> No, he didn't. Of course he did (and does). It's well known. Here's HN from 11 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20979343 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20979343 I have personally read, in the last few weeks, over a dozen statements by women who were driven out of FSF by Stallman. I don't even move in those circles. There must be many more who don't feel like speaking up and getting harassed by all the neckbeards. Richard Stallman, Knight for Justice - Also Hot Ladies https://miro.medium.com/max/4080/1*lDSkAjF1958TpEafxuJsLg.jpeg https://miro.medium.com/max/4080/1*lDSkAjF1958TpEafxuJsLg.jp...

lostjohnny 7y ago
> Of course he did (and does). It's well known. Here's HN from 11 days ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20979343 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20979343 And I've personally spoken with 4 of them that say the exact opposite. Drop some name please, accusations need proof. > I don't even move in those circles I do. > Richard Stallman, Knight for Justice - Also Hot Ladies Old joke, stupid sign, nothing severe, it's been there forever together with the sticker of Amnesty International (if you haven't noticed), nobody complained for ages, suddenly high paid engineers that without GCC wouldn't have the same high paid job complain that RMS makes them feel uncomfortable, even though they "don't even move in those circles" Let's be serious, please don't make me quote Roger Murtaugh.
- throw0101a 7y ago
  > And I've personally spoken with 4 of them that say the exact opposite. The four that you know may not have attracted RMS' attention. > Drop some name please, accusations need proof. It's up to the alleged victims to go public, if they so wish, IMHO. (Though announcing un-sourced / anonymously-sourced claims isn't exactly a great thing either.)
  - lostjohnny 7y ago
    > The four that you know may not have attracted RMS' attention so he can control himself. He doesn't just throw himself at every woman that comes around. Just like the rest of us... > It's up to the alleged victims to go public Fact is, I don't think they even exist. Not because victims do no exist in general, but because at worse RMS has been weird or inappropriate, but dangerous, threatening, scary or violent? It never happened. I'm sure.
  - DATACOMMANDER 7y ago
    Anonymous accusations should be treated as worthless for obvious reasons.