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> Does she need to admit that women do, in fact, prefer assholes? Or that the domestic violence she suffered was her fault? no and no. > In what direction do

> Does she need to admit that women do, in fact, prefer assholes? Or that the domestic violence she suffered was her fault? no and no. > In what direction do you think she needs to budge One in which the author does not assume her brother should blame a greater system of patriarchy and white supremacy.

simion314 7y ago
The article is obviously subjective but the statistics show that racism exists and the correlation between height and your salary/job.
- dooglius 7y ago
  What does that have to do with what the parent is saying?
  - simion314 7y ago
    Did I interpreted the parent wrong? How did you interpret it? He said "One in which the author does not assume her brother should blame a greater system of patriarchy and white supremacy." My interpretation was that the person was not affected by the racism or the society norms and the author is wrong, I pointed out that her stories about the racism and the rest are confirmed by statistics, so I am not sure why the OP is so sure that the author is wrong, does he have more information? Yes the article is subjective and the author can be wrong but a random guy wants to disprove the author because his political views disagree with the author.
htfu 7y ago
But her emphasizing with his point would logically only lead her to put further (even all) blame for his death on him, and wouldn't result in writing more "balanced" or wise but simply spiteful and patronizing, which I think this does a good job avoiding.
bambataa 7y ago
Where do you think his insecurity about his physical appearance might otherwise come from?
- mc32 7y ago
  People within their group or even people of the majority pop in near homogenous countries still have all kinds of insecurities. If those people grew up in other societies outside their group they may or may not have different insecurities, but we can’t know. Interestingly the USSR used to be known for limb lengthening surgery, although I heard it was very much in a Soviet tradition.
- imustbeevil 7y ago
  Just to clarify this position, do you believe that insecurity about physical appearance is the result of patriarchy and not a hundred thousand year genetic predisposition to find desirable mating partners for survival? I'm insecure about my looks because I'm happier when I see attractive people and I know I can't give other people that happiness.
  - pjc50 7y ago
    > result of patriarchy and not a hundred thousand year genetic predisposition to find desirable mating partners for survival? What makes you think these two can be cleanly separated?
    - imustbeevil 7y ago
      I believe that's my position. If the social structure of humanity is based on genetic necessity, I wouldn't think to frame it as any one group of individuals making decisions that harm others.
      - pjc50 7y ago
        I think people in these discussions over-assume that patriarchal is consciously intentional. So we're confusedly agreeing? > The social structure that results is emergent, not designed. ... yes, and the undesigned structure that has emerged we are labelling "patriarchy". > the social structure of humanity is based on genetic necessity ... requires a lot more unpacking. Is this asserting that culture doesn't exist and material conditions are irrelevant? All behaviour is only genetic? I don't think that's what you're claiming, but I can't parse it otherwise.
Chris2048 7y ago
You think her summary of their differences is charitable?

simion314 7y ago

The article is obviously subjective but the statistics show that racism exists and the correlation between height and your salary/job.

dooglius 7y ago
What does that have to do with what the parent is saying?
- simion314 7y ago
  Did I interpreted the parent wrong? How did you interpret it? He said "One in which the author does not assume her brother should blame a greater system of patriarchy and white supremacy." My interpretation was that the person was not affected by the racism or the society norms and the author is wrong, I pointed out that her stories about the racism and the rest are confirmed by statistics, so I am not sure why the OP is so sure that the author is wrong, does he have more information? Yes the article is subjective and the author can be wrong but a random guy wants to disprove the author because his political views disagree with the author.

htfu 7y ago

But her emphasizing with his point would logically only lead her to put further (even all) blame for his death on him, and wouldn't result in writing more "balanced" or wise but simply spiteful and patronizing, which I think this does a good job avoiding.

bambataa 7y ago

Where do you think his insecurity about his physical appearance might otherwise come from?

mc32 7y ago
People within their group or even people of the majority pop in near homogenous countries still have all kinds of insecurities. If those people grew up in other societies outside their group they may or may not have different insecurities, but we can’t know. Interestingly the USSR used to be known for limb lengthening surgery, although I heard it was very much in a Soviet tradition.
imustbeevil 7y ago
Just to clarify this position, do you believe that insecurity about physical appearance is the result of patriarchy and not a hundred thousand year genetic predisposition to find desirable mating partners for survival? I'm insecure about my looks because I'm happier when I see attractive people and I know I can't give other people that happiness.
- pjc50 7y ago
  > result of patriarchy and not a hundred thousand year genetic predisposition to find desirable mating partners for survival? What makes you think these two can be cleanly separated?
  - imustbeevil 7y ago
    I believe that's my position. If the social structure of humanity is based on genetic necessity, I wouldn't think to frame it as any one group of individuals making decisions that harm others.
    - pjc50 7y ago
      I think people in these discussions over-assume that patriarchal is consciously intentional. So we're confusedly agreeing? > The social structure that results is emergent, not designed. ... yes, and the undesigned structure that has emerged we are labelling "patriarchy". > the social structure of humanity is based on genetic necessity ... requires a lot more unpacking. Is this asserting that culture doesn't exist and material conditions are irrelevant? All behaviour is only genetic? I don't think that's what you're claiming, but I can't parse it otherwise.

Chris2048 7y ago

You think her summary of their differences is charitable?