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> If you think everyone should be called by their preferred pronouns, that's not respect How is that not respecting others?

• Hitton 7y ago
  Will you respect my pronouns if say my pronouns are God/God/Gods? Some people might tolerate it, but for most I doubt. zie,sie,ey,ve,tey,e,xe,ze,ne,shi, furries and similar try to use fae, plant, bun, star, void. And that's just few examples. Most people will reasonably draw a line somewhere. Some people just decide to draw line behind he/she and maybe also consider if the person appears vaguely male/female. One could also make claim that choosing some ridiculous new pronoun is disrespectful of others. People were content with he/she for thousands of years and some could consider inventing new ones similar to 1984's Newspeak.
  • mnsc 7y ago
    > One could also make claim that choosing some ridiculous new pronoun is disrespectful of others. Of course, but that hypothetical person who put forward this claim doesn't subscribe to the generally accepted definition of respect so I don't see why we should discuss that person.
    • sooheon 7y ago
      Is there an approved list of pronouns it is OK to choose from?
      • mnsc 7y ago
        I don't understand where this question comes from?
        • sooheon 7y ago
          Since you said a hypothetical person who wants to be called by a ridiculous pronoun doesn't share your definition of respect, I'm wondering if you have an opinion on which desired pronouns are repectable and which aren't.
          • stOneskull 7y ago
            i find getting called 'cis' quite disrespectful. offensive even. doubly so when light skin color, 'white', is used to generalize and demonize. hypocrisy is the worst.
          • mnsc 7y ago
            > Since you said a hypothetical person who wants to be called by a ridiculous pronoun Ok. Now I understand. Read my comment again. We're talking about hypotetical person A who claims that another hypothetical B person who wants to be called by a ridiculous pronoun is disrespectful. A says that B is disrespectful. I said that it is A who doesn't know what respect is. Sorry that you got confused.
            • x220 7y ago
              Do you think that there's any limit on what pronouns people can demand to be called? Can my pronoun be "intergalactic emperor/intergalactic emperor's/intergalactic emperor"? Can every person have their own unique set of pronouns? Can every person have more than one set of pronouns which they switch throughout the day depending on their fluid sense of gender?
              • mnsc 7y ago
                No. Yes. Yes. Yes. ¯\(°_o)/¯
• x220 7y ago
  I think that's politeness. I respect people for some achievement, skill, or contribution, for example. Respect is what we extend to some, and politeness is what we extend to everyone. It might sound like an asinine distinction, but the choice of words really does matter in a discussion such as this where the whole point is what words we ought to use to refer to trans people.
  • mnsc 7y ago
    From Wikipedia. > Respect, also is called esteem, is a positive feeling or action shown towards someone or something considered important, or held in high esteem or regard. It conveys a sense of admiration for good or valuable qualities. And it is also the process of honoring someone by exhibiting care, concern, or consideration for their needs or feelings. My emphasis. I don't know if you define "respect" in your own way or you only care about people's feeling if they have a certain skill level or have achieved/contributed enough.
    • x220 7y ago
      Honor, too, is something not extended equally.