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Said who? The basic accusation was that he was creepy (which is not really an objective problem, much less an offence...). This was illustrated by things like h

by fock 7y ago

Said who? The basic accusation was that he was creepy (which is not really an objective problem, much less an offence...). This was illustrated by things like him having a matress in his office and him allegedly (and drunkenly) hitting on a student back in the 80s in a very bad way. If you consider that the "viral" posts, which apparently triggered this, contained a warning of the like "if minors read this, please turn away, you might be shocked at the idea of a 17y/o having sex with an adult", you generally get the spirit of the whole thing. This has nothing to do with equality and freedom anymore, it's just about creating an "ideal" society (probably with procreation happening only after getting blessed by a priest).

samstave 7y ago
https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/17/20870050/richard-stallman-resigns-mit-free-software-foundation-epstein https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/17/20870050/richard-stallman...
- fock 7y ago
  yeah, I know why he was forced to resign, the creepiness only was the part spilling everything over. The US attitude to sexuality is apparently still stuck at the point, when the Mayflower landed in New England (at least for everything "heteronormative"). And that is definitively not a good thing...
HaloZero 7y ago
This medium article talks about a few people (though mostly anonymous). https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-appendix-a-a7e41e784f88 https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-appendix... April Glaser on Twitter specifically talks about accusations against him: https://twitter.com/aprilaser/status/1174093253433380864 https://twitter.com/aprilaser/status/1174093253433380864 Here's the reality though, every woman who steps up and admits publicly is probably going to get harassed. Some fuckheads on the internet are going to bother her and harass them. I imagine the # of public complaints is going to be pretty low.
- fock 7y ago
  Ok, so I misjudged the post I answered to as equating "harassment" = "sexual harassment" (which there is no real indication for except for the "I'll kill myself"-episode which many also would not consider sexual harassment and which really depends on the circumstance 40a back...)? Also I'd really like to know how a bad joke ("if he's hitting on you, say you are a vi user") is indication of abusive/inappropriate behavior without producing a single real case of such? Somehow the definition of harassment used by a wide variety of people seems to be "I don't like his opinion" if I judge from the linked twitter post... If it goes forward this way I could picture people rallying in front of libraries and burning a lot of books. Would someone please enlighten me how "Lolita" is any less worse than RMS-ramblings? That then also explains paragraph 3, since when you "step up" claiming you got harassed and it turns out you just disagree with the offendees opinion/behavior at large, you are harassed again by people disagreeing with you... This is kind of brain-dead but apparently a certain kind of reality happening on this planet called "earth"...

by fock 7y ago

samstave 7y ago

https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/17/20870050/richard-stallman-resigns-mit-free-software-foundation-epstein https://www.theverge.com/2019/9/17/20870050/richard-stallman...

fock 7y ago
yeah, I know why he was forced to resign, the creepiness only was the part spilling everything over. The US attitude to sexuality is apparently still stuck at the point, when the Mayflower landed in New England (at least for everything "heteronormative"). And that is definitively not a good thing...

HaloZero 7y ago

This medium article talks about a few people (though mostly anonymous). https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-appendix-a-a7e41e784f88 https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-appendix... April Glaser on Twitter specifically talks about accusations against him: https://twitter.com/aprilaser/status/1174093253433380864 https://twitter.com/aprilaser/status/1174093253433380864 Here's the reality though, every woman who steps up and admits publicly is probably going to get harassed. Some fuckheads on the internet are going to bother her and harass them. I imagine the # of public complaints is going to be pretty low.

fock 7y ago
Ok, so I misjudged the post I answered to as equating "harassment" = "sexual harassment" (which there is no real indication for except for the "I'll kill myself"-episode which many also would not consider sexual harassment and which really depends on the circumstance 40a back...)? Also I'd really like to know how a bad joke ("if he's hitting on you, say you are a vi user") is indication of abusive/inappropriate behavior without producing a single real case of such? Somehow the definition of harassment used by a wide variety of people seems to be "I don't like his opinion" if I judge from the linked twitter post... If it goes forward this way I could picture people rallying in front of libraries and burning a lot of books. Would someone please enlighten me how "Lolita" is any less worse than RMS-ramblings? That then also explains paragraph 3, since when you "step up" claiming you got harassed and it turns out you just disagree with the offendees opinion/behavior at large, you are harassed again by people disagreeing with you... This is kind of brain-dead but apparently a certain kind of reality happening on this planet called "earth"...