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So how many non-Android smart phones have there been past Nokia N9? - Jolla/Sailfish is still alive, but not doing particularly well (I'm typing on one.) - Fi

So how many non-Android smart phones have there been past Nokia N9? - Jolla/Sailfish is still alive, but not doing particularly well (I'm typing on one.) - Firefox failed - Ubuntu failed (I hear a community is still continuing with the SW, but not sure whether it runs on any phone HW) I'm sure I missed something, but I'm sure I did not miss any real good ones.

enjoyyourlife 7y ago
There is a Tizen (Samsung) phone
- usr1106 7y ago
  True. I was sure I missed at least one, probably several. But even a giant like Samsung doesn't seem to be able to make a well-known success story with using Android.
emilsedgh 7y ago
The difference is expectations. I think Purism has far more modest expectations than all other ones, therefore making it more viable in long term.
wodenokoto 7y ago
There’s a Firefox os fork that is commercially quite strong. KaiOS. 2nd most used mobile os in India, and I want to say it has 1% global market share, but I can’t back that up. But I’d say you missed a pretty good one :) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/KaiOS https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/KaiOS
gnomewascool 7y ago
> - Ubuntu failed (I hear a community is still continuing with the SW, but not sure whether it runs on any phone HW) Yes, it's a community effort and yes it does run on actual hardware.[0][1] A Nexus 5 is probably most stable. All the devices that were originally launched by companies in cooperation with Canonical, are also still supported. In addition, AFAIR Ubuntu touch should run on any android devices that Halium[2] supports (the purpose of Halium is for projects like KDE Mobile, Ubuntu Touch, PureOS (?) etc. to share the code needed for "normal" (GNU) Linux to run on Android devices). [0] https://ubports.com/devices/promoted-devices https://ubports.com/devices/promoted-devices [1] (javascript needed) https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ [2] https://halium.org/ https://halium.org/

enjoyyourlife 7y ago

There is a Tizen (Samsung) phone

usr1106 7y ago
True. I was sure I missed at least one, probably several. But even a giant like Samsung doesn't seem to be able to make a well-known success story with using Android.

emilsedgh 7y ago

The difference is expectations. I think Purism has far more modest expectations than all other ones, therefore making it more viable in long term.

wodenokoto 7y ago

There’s a Firefox os fork that is commercially quite strong. KaiOS. 2nd most used mobile os in India, and I want to say it has 1% global market share, but I can’t back that up. But I’d say you missed a pretty good one :) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/KaiOS https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/KaiOS

gnomewascool 7y ago

> - Ubuntu failed (I hear a community is still continuing with the SW, but not sure whether it runs on any phone HW) Yes, it's a community effort and yes it does run on actual hardware.[0][1] A Nexus 5 is probably most stable. All the devices that were originally launched by companies in cooperation with Canonical, are also still supported. In addition, AFAIR Ubuntu touch should run on any android devices that Halium[2] supports (the purpose of Halium is for projects like KDE Mobile, Ubuntu Touch, PureOS (?) etc. to share the code needed for "normal" (GNU) Linux to run on Android devices). [0] https://ubports.com/devices/promoted-devices https://ubports.com/devices/promoted-devices [1] (javascript needed) https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ [2] https://halium.org/ https://halium.org/