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> The NASA effects are the Disney version. As many countries have already found (and many will discover) you can get an "apocalyptic future" with seemingly smal

by mrep 7y ago

> The NASA effects are the Disney version. As many countries have already found (and many will discover) you can get an "apocalyptic future" with seemingly small changes. What countries have experienced an "apocalyptic future" due to climate change seeing as you are smarter than NASA? > if wars of oil were bad, wait for wars for water How! I am flabbergasted you think the trillion dollar market for oil will be usurped by water. Pretty much all cities are based around water sources (rivers usually).

coldtea 7y ago
>What countries have experienced an "apocalyptic future" due to climate change seeing as you are smarter than NASA? Note that the latter part is an ad-hominem, and what it puts forward (that I'm "smarter than NASA") was nowhere in my message (not even implied). So I might not be "smarter than NASA", but you (or at least your comment) are ruder than needed. As to the point I made. NASA presents the Disney version for a lot of reasons, not because of lack of smart people there. Two main ones: One is that they are a government agency, and need to be political (e.g. balance the pressure from those that discard the climate impact altogether and "meet them in the middle"). Second, is that in such a public pronouncement they tend to be conservative and err on the side of caution. As for the countries that have already experienced an "apocalyptic future": https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/10/five-pacific-islands-lost-rising-seas-climate-change https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/10/five-pac... Here's another: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/07/24/pakistan-one-worlds-leading-victims-global-warming/809509002/ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/07/24/pakistan... And the migrant crisis that affects tens of millions (and a project 1 billion until 2050) is strongly affected by climate change already... https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/07/10/disease-flood-war-climate-refugee-crises-happening-now/39669605/ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/07/10/disease-flood...

by mrep 7y ago

coldtea 7y ago

>What countries have experienced an "apocalyptic future" due to climate change seeing as you are smarter than NASA? Note that the latter part is an ad-hominem, and what it puts forward (that I'm "smarter than NASA") was nowhere in my message (not even implied). So I might not be "smarter than NASA", but you (or at least your comment) are ruder than needed. As to the point I made. NASA presents the Disney version for a lot of reasons, not because of lack of smart people there. Two main ones: One is that they are a government agency, and need to be political (e.g. balance the pressure from those that discard the climate impact altogether and "meet them in the middle"). Second, is that in such a public pronouncement they tend to be conservative and err on the side of caution. As for the countries that have already experienced an "apocalyptic future": https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/10/five-pacific-islands-lost-rising-seas-climate-change https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2016/may/10/five-pac... Here's another: https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/07/24/pakistan-one-worlds-leading-victims-global-warming/809509002/ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2018/07/24/pakistan... And the migrant crisis that affects tens of millions (and a project 1 billion until 2050) is strongly affected by climate change already... https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/07/10/disease-flood-war-climate-refugee-crises-happening-now/39669605/ https://eu.usatoday.com/story/money/2019/07/10/disease-flood...