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Seems to be a common game with ignorant right and ignorant left (I can think of a million instances of ignorant right-wing people rambling on incessantly about

Seems to be a common game with ignorant right and ignorant left (I can think of a million instances of ignorant right-wing people rambling on incessantly about the "socialist" part of national socialist german workers' party). The difference I suppose is that fascism is a far-right ideal and not a far-left one. Also the fact that the far-right in the United States are in some cases literal neonazis.

justsubmit 7y ago
> fascism is a far-right ideal and not a far-left one. That myth underlies much of the misunderstanding in contemporary political discourse.
- crazydoggers 7y ago
  I’m not sure how you justify this? If one is going to define politics along a spectrum like left to right, fascism is going to be grouped with other political systems that tend toward nationalism and nativist policies. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
  - justsubmit 7y ago
    Control the terminology -> control the discourse -> control the narrative -> control politics -> control everything. That's how the Left operates. cf. Alinsky, "Rules for Radicals" In other words, Wikipedia is not an unbiased source. Rather than throw links at you, suffice it to say that there are other criteria by which political spectra may be defined. Let the reader understand.
    - crazydoggers 7y ago
      Well it doesn’t really suffice it to say. You can’t expect the reader to take your word for it. Wikipedia at least has primary sources that anyone can examine. Sounds like conspiracy theory claptrap.
      - justsubmit 7y ago
        Well, why don't you review this source from Wikipedia, then, and decide whether it's claptrap: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_senior_thesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_senior_thesis
  - stOneskull 7y ago
    I think left and right have no meaning in a one-party totalitarian state

justsubmit 7y ago

> fascism is a far-right ideal and not a far-left one. That myth underlies much of the misunderstanding in contemporary political discourse.

crazydoggers 7y ago
I’m not sure how you justify this? If one is going to define politics along a spectrum like left to right, fascism is going to be grouped with other political systems that tend toward nationalism and nativist policies. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far-right_politics https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism
- justsubmit 7y ago
  Control the terminology -> control the discourse -> control the narrative -> control politics -> control everything. That's how the Left operates. cf. Alinsky, "Rules for Radicals" In other words, Wikipedia is not an unbiased source. Rather than throw links at you, suffice it to say that there are other criteria by which political spectra may be defined. Let the reader understand.
  - crazydoggers 7y ago
    Well it doesn’t really suffice it to say. You can’t expect the reader to take your word for it. Wikipedia at least has primary sources that anyone can examine. Sounds like conspiracy theory claptrap.
    - justsubmit 7y ago
      Well, why don't you review this source from Wikipedia, then, and decide whether it's claptrap: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_senior_thesis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_senior_thesis
- stOneskull 7y ago
  I think left and right have no meaning in a one-party totalitarian state