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There has been quite a bit of thought and writing about "you made your choice, now we choose the consequences" over the years, though, admittedly, few probably

There has been quite a bit of thought and writing about "you made your choice, now we choose the consequences" over the years, though, admittedly, few probably predicted the stacking of new consequences upon those previously assessed. Well, outside of the Black Mirror writer's room, anyway.

astura 7y ago
Okay... So if they decide not to be findable by DNA anymore they can just go delete their info from GEDMatch. https://www.gedmatch.com/tos.htm https://www.gedmatch.com/tos.htm >You understand that future genealogical and non-genealogical uses may be developed, including uses that GEDmatch cannot predict or foresee. If you find any of these current or future uses unacceptable, do not provide Raw Data to GEDmatch, and remove any of your Raw Data already provided to this Site. I fail to see what this has to do with suspending the US Constitution.
- rhizome 7y ago
  f you find any of these current or future uses unacceptable, do not provide Raw Data to GEDmatch Hah, this reminds me of those drug commercials with disclaimers not to take the drug being advertised if you're allergic to the drug being advertised.
- mlyle 7y ago
  It's more like--- compromises made about privacy and legality based on present technology don't always look so good carried forward. Most of our rules about what police can do to gather evidence is based on 19th century America. So we came up with compromises like... If a suspect is holding a piece of documentation personally, a search warrant is required; but if a business holds the records, a subpoena is enough. But suddenly almost all of our correspondence, personal photos, etc, is in cloud providers' hands, and ditto for basically all of our financial transactions. The rules stayed the same, but as the world changed privacy evaporated. Or, the police can record where anyone out in public is going. Because they can hardly follow everyone, right? There's an inherent bound on that power. But then you get things like license plate cameras and facial recognition recording the movement of nearly all humans. Effectively, the police became much more powerful compared to the past with no changes in laws to do it.
- Vrondi 7y ago
  The problem is that if your sibling or cousin submits DNA to GEDmatch, they've in effect submitted the entire extended family's DNA. You cannot go take down the DNA your cousin submitted to GEDmatch, even though it affects your privacy. You cannot even take down the DNA your identical twin submitted to GEDmatch, even though it really is the _same_ as yours. The laws simply have not yet caught up to the new tech.

astura 7y ago

Okay... So if they decide not to be findable by DNA anymore they can just go delete their info from GEDMatch. https://www.gedmatch.com/tos.htm https://www.gedmatch.com/tos.htm >You understand that future genealogical and non-genealogical uses may be developed, including uses that GEDmatch cannot predict or foresee. If you find any of these current or future uses unacceptable, do not provide Raw Data to GEDmatch, and remove any of your Raw Data already provided to this Site. I fail to see what this has to do with suspending the US Constitution.

rhizome 7y ago
f you find any of these current or future uses unacceptable, do not provide Raw Data to GEDmatch Hah, this reminds me of those drug commercials with disclaimers not to take the drug being advertised if you're allergic to the drug being advertised.
mlyle 7y ago
It's more like--- compromises made about privacy and legality based on present technology don't always look so good carried forward. Most of our rules about what police can do to gather evidence is based on 19th century America. So we came up with compromises like... If a suspect is holding a piece of documentation personally, a search warrant is required; but if a business holds the records, a subpoena is enough. But suddenly almost all of our correspondence, personal photos, etc, is in cloud providers' hands, and ditto for basically all of our financial transactions. The rules stayed the same, but as the world changed privacy evaporated. Or, the police can record where anyone out in public is going. Because they can hardly follow everyone, right? There's an inherent bound on that power. But then you get things like license plate cameras and facial recognition recording the movement of nearly all humans. Effectively, the police became much more powerful compared to the past with no changes in laws to do it.
Vrondi 7y ago
The problem is that if your sibling or cousin submits DNA to GEDmatch, they've in effect submitted the entire extended family's DNA. You cannot go take down the DNA your cousin submitted to GEDmatch, even though it affects your privacy. You cannot even take down the DNA your identical twin submitted to GEDmatch, even though it really is the _same_ as yours. The laws simply have not yet caught up to the new tech.