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I challenge you to go to the teslamotorsclub.com forums or Reddit and poll ACTUAL users. You will quickly find that this is NOT the majority. I frequent those

by xedeon 7y ago

I challenge you to go to the teslamotorsclub.com forums or Reddit and poll ACTUAL users. You will quickly find that this is NOT the majority. I frequent those forums and most users are very satisfied with their cars.

mdtusz 7y ago
You have to acknowledge that there's some selection bias in a sampling from a forum for a particular car brand though.
- xedeon 7y ago
  Anecdotes from people who voted with their money > random opinions on the internet.
  - bobsil1 7y ago
    It's the usual effect: you mostly get 5 stars and 1 stars. Broad middle not motivated to post.
    - xedeon 7y ago
      I think you're missing the point... It's people who have not even used the product that I'm talking about here. Akin to those who claimed that the iPhone is stupid because it lacked a QWERTY keyboard. History have proven all of those people wrong and Apple changed the entire smartphone industry...
- Marsymars 7y ago
  On top of choice-supportive bias for current owners of any car brand.
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serf 7y ago
most car owners don't wrench on their own car, statistically speaking. for those of us that do, Tesla does a lot of self-defeating with the way they handle repair and service. fyi: all car forums are filled with negative experiences with that specific car. The people usually go to forums to try to find help, not to espouse the greatness of their investment.
- tamaharbor 7y ago
  Investments don’t normally depreciate 20% immediately after purchase.
- xedeon 7y ago
  > fyi: all car forums are filled with negative experiences with that specific car. Which car and what forums? Care to post some links that are at least more than a week old? > The people usually go to forums to try to find help, not to espouse the greatness of their investment. Not true! There are a ton of bad experiences with lackluster customer service. I myself experienced it an posted it at teslamotorsclub.com (Tesla ended up making it right!). So I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion.
  - edm0nd 7y ago
    I'm not OP but I've read a lot of long wait time for body repair & parts posts over in /r/teslamotors. Tends to be an issue that has slowly been getting better. For example: - https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/byc1gt/im_absolutely_exhausted_with_tesla_support/ https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/byc1gt/im_abso... - https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/8nqh2b/i_got_rear_ended_and_ive_been_without_my_s_for/ https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/8nqh2b/i_got_r... - https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/ae1goq/waiting_on_tesla_for_parts/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/ae1goq/waiting... - https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/bjcedf/waiting_on_a_part_rant/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/bjcedf/waiting... - https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/ae4lhv/psa_if_experiencing_an_extended_wait_for_parts/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/ae4lhv/psa_if_... A good Google Dork is: site:reddit.com/r/teslamotors "Waiting" "parts" "support"

by xedeon 7y ago

mdtusz 7y ago

You have to acknowledge that there's some selection bias in a sampling from a forum for a particular car brand though.

xedeon 7y ago
Anecdotes from people who voted with their money > random opinions on the internet.
- bobsil1 7y ago
  It's the usual effect: you mostly get 5 stars and 1 stars. Broad middle not motivated to post.
  - xedeon 7y ago
    I think you're missing the point... It's people who have not even used the product that I'm talking about here. Akin to those who claimed that the iPhone is stupid because it lacked a QWERTY keyboard. History have proven all of those people wrong and Apple changed the entire smartphone industry...
Marsymars 7y ago
On top of choice-supportive bias for current owners of any car brand.

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serf 7y ago

most car owners don't wrench on their own car, statistically speaking. for those of us that do, Tesla does a lot of self-defeating with the way they handle repair and service. fyi: all car forums are filled with negative experiences with that specific car. The people usually go to forums to try to find help, not to espouse the greatness of their investment.

tamaharbor 7y ago
Investments don’t normally depreciate 20% immediately after purchase.
xedeon 7y ago
> fyi: all car forums are filled with negative experiences with that specific car. Which car and what forums? Care to post some links that are at least more than a week old? > The people usually go to forums to try to find help, not to espouse the greatness of their investment. Not true! There are a ton of bad experiences with lackluster customer service. I myself experienced it an posted it at teslamotorsclub.com (Tesla ended up making it right!). So I'm not sure how you came to the conclusion.
- edm0nd 7y ago
  I'm not OP but I've read a lot of long wait time for body repair & parts posts over in /r/teslamotors. Tends to be an issue that has slowly been getting better. For example: - https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/byc1gt/im_absolutely_exhausted_with_tesla_support/ https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/byc1gt/im_abso... - https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/8nqh2b/i_got_rear_ended_and_ive_been_without_my_s_for/ https://old.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/8nqh2b/i_got_r... - https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/ae1goq/waiting_on_tesla_for_parts/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/ae1goq/waiting... - https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/bjcedf/waiting_on_a_part_rant/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/bjcedf/waiting... - https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/ae4lhv/psa_if_experiencing_an_extended_wait_for_parts/ https://www.reddit.com/r/teslamotors/comments/ae4lhv/psa_if_... A good Google Dork is: site:reddit.com/r/teslamotors "Waiting" "parts" "support"