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Considering that they haven't perfected the "don't accelerate into stationary objects" algorithm, I'm not sure I trust this in an area with a lot of pedestrian

by dx87 7y ago

Considering that they haven't perfected the "don't accelerate into stationary objects" algorithm, I'm not sure I trust this in an area with a lot of pedestrian traffic.

krapp 7y ago
Accelerate, decelerate, stationary, moving, so much complicated math. It's not surprising computers can't handle it.
bdamm 7y ago
The freeway control regime is entirely different from a low-speed control regime required to safely maneuver in a parking lot. Where I'd expect strange things to occur would be when a car confuses a baby rolling on the asphalt with a garbage bag being blown in the wind, and runs it over.
- slg 7y ago
  It is all about adjusting the confidence required to make certain actions. A car traveling 70 mph on the freeway can be in a lot of danger if it suddenly brakes unnecessarily, but that generally isn't true for a car going 10 mph in a parking lot. You therefore have to be a lot more confident that "garbage bag" is a "baby" on the freeway while in the parking lot you can stop at pretty much all signs of trouble.
- zaroth 7y ago
  Your second sentence doesn’t follow from your first. On the highway the car has to distinguish between garbage bag and human, and avoid false positives because they can cause an accident. In the parking lot the car doesn’t exceed I think 3mph and had no safety reason to avoid false positives. It will stop for the garbage bag every time. Is it technically possible for Smart Summon to collide with something? Perhaps it is. And I guarantee we will see people testing this heavily on YouTube with styrofoam in the coming weeks. Incidentally, it’s also possible for drivers to hit other people in parking lots too. It’s actually one of the most likely locations for a vehicle to collide with a human. The sooner we have algorithms driving in parking lots that are safer than humans driving in parking lots, the better. Again, to your original point, it’s a particularly good place to start as you can allow the false positives in the name of a strict collision safety regime.
_ph_ 7y ago
Teslas have ultrasonic sensors in all directions with about 5m of range. This doesn't help with preventing running into things at highway speeds, but certainly on parking lots. So it has a fallback to avoid collisions while in summon mode.
mlindner 7y ago
Why are you spreading fake information? This hasn't been the case for years, if ever.

by dx87 7y ago

Considering that they haven't perfected the "don't accelerate into stationary objects" algorithm, I'm not sure I trust this in an area with a lot of pedestrian traffic.

krapp 7y ago

Accelerate, decelerate, stationary, moving, so much complicated math. It's not surprising computers can't handle it.

bdamm 7y ago

The freeway control regime is entirely different from a low-speed control regime required to safely maneuver in a parking lot. Where I'd expect strange things to occur would be when a car confuses a baby rolling on the asphalt with a garbage bag being blown in the wind, and runs it over.

slg 7y ago
It is all about adjusting the confidence required to make certain actions. A car traveling 70 mph on the freeway can be in a lot of danger if it suddenly brakes unnecessarily, but that generally isn't true for a car going 10 mph in a parking lot. You therefore have to be a lot more confident that "garbage bag" is a "baby" on the freeway while in the parking lot you can stop at pretty much all signs of trouble.
zaroth 7y ago
Your second sentence doesn’t follow from your first. On the highway the car has to distinguish between garbage bag and human, and avoid false positives because they can cause an accident. In the parking lot the car doesn’t exceed I think 3mph and had no safety reason to avoid false positives. It will stop for the garbage bag every time. Is it technically possible for Smart Summon to collide with something? Perhaps it is. And I guarantee we will see people testing this heavily on YouTube with styrofoam in the coming weeks. Incidentally, it’s also possible for drivers to hit other people in parking lots too. It’s actually one of the most likely locations for a vehicle to collide with a human. The sooner we have algorithms driving in parking lots that are safer than humans driving in parking lots, the better. Again, to your original point, it’s a particularly good place to start as you can allow the false positives in the name of a strict collision safety regime.

_ph_ 7y ago

Teslas have ultrasonic sensors in all directions with about 5m of range. This doesn't help with preventing running into things at highway speeds, but certainly on parking lots. So it has a fallback to avoid collisions while in summon mode.

mlindner 7y ago

Why are you spreading fake information? This hasn't been the case for years, if ever.