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"They aren't good for consumers either." Can't speak for the Google store, but as a consumer, I definitely trust Apple's apps more than random developers' apps

"They aren't good for consumers either." Can't speak for the Google store, but as a consumer, I definitely trust Apple's apps more than random developers' apps. So in Apple's case, I always appreciate when they provide another service/app that I can use, because their values on privacy aligns with mine and they have built up a trust relationship with me.

jtbayly 7y ago
But that’s completely different than the question of what the App Store accomplishes. Apple didn’t need or develop an App Store to distribute their own apps, but third party ones.
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cma 7y ago
> Can't speak for the Google store, but as a consumer, I definitely trust Apple's apps more than random developers' apps. Couldn't you still have that without banning off-store apps?
- xnyan 7y ago
  By default, you can't side-load applications on any android phone I've used in the last 5 years. It's not hard to turn it off, but it's also not obvious how and a consumer would have to be taken step-by-step on how to do it, and so the default Google experience is the same as Apple, sans the critical difference of much much more stringent app review on iOS.
  - cma 7y ago
    Epic was able to get over 15 million Fortnite installs as of around this time last year and may be bringing their store to Android as well (12% cut instead of 30%): https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/09/fortnite-reaches-15-million-android-downloads-without-google-play/ https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/09/fortnite-reaches-15-m...
  - soylentcola 7y ago
    Not sure when it was last updated, but for at least the past few years, any time I tap to install an application I got from a dev's site or whatever, it basically says "hey, you haven't given permission to install apps from this source. doing so might not be safe, etc." with a link/button to take you to the menu with the relevant toggle. As an end user, it's akin to typing my root password to clicking "accept" on Windows UAC. I can still install it just fine, but I need to give permission and check the box accepting responsibility. Whether that's enough to protect someone from doing something unwise can be debated, but it's not something you'd really need instructions for.

jtbayly 7y ago

But that’s completely different than the question of what the App Store accomplishes. Apple didn’t need or develop an App Store to distribute their own apps, but third party ones.

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cma 7y ago

> Can't speak for the Google store, but as a consumer, I definitely trust Apple's apps more than random developers' apps. Couldn't you still have that without banning off-store apps?

xnyan 7y ago
By default, you can't side-load applications on any android phone I've used in the last 5 years. It's not hard to turn it off, but it's also not obvious how and a consumer would have to be taken step-by-step on how to do it, and so the default Google experience is the same as Apple, sans the critical difference of much much more stringent app review on iOS.
- cma 7y ago
  Epic was able to get over 15 million Fortnite installs as of around this time last year and may be bringing their store to Android as well (12% cut instead of 30%): https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/09/fortnite-reaches-15-million-android-downloads-without-google-play/ https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/09/fortnite-reaches-15-m...
- soylentcola 7y ago
  Not sure when it was last updated, but for at least the past few years, any time I tap to install an application I got from a dev's site or whatever, it basically says "hey, you haven't given permission to install apps from this source. doing so might not be safe, etc." with a link/button to take you to the menu with the relevant toggle. As an end user, it's akin to typing my root password to clicking "accept" on Windows UAC. I can still install it just fine, but I need to give permission and check the box accepting responsibility. Whether that's enough to protect someone from doing something unwise can be debated, but it's not something you'd really need instructions for.