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No just dont amplify them so incredibly much. They are children in the end, they deserve protection Trolling is a fundamental right , not being trolled is not
by buboard 7y ago
No just dont amplify them so incredibly much. They are children in the end, they deserve protection
Trolling is a fundamental right , not being trolled is not
- iron0013 7y agoThey would be protected by meaningful government action on climate change. A comfortable childhood will mean nothing to these kids if their adulthoods are ruined by the consequences of the inaction of older generations, and the kids know it and want to do something about it.
- buboard 7y agothis rhetoric is going a bit too far. The UN children's convention protects children . When (and if) climate change will affect these people they will be adults.
- iron0013 7y agoWhat rhetoric? And of course, by the time they are adults it will be far too late to act.
- buboard 7y agothe rhetoric that "inaction is violating children's rights". It's a slippery slope: What about financial debt?
- iron0013 7y agoDon’t put words in my mouth. And what about financial debt? Is the only argument you have non sequitur? Or do you just feel like it’s important you keep talking even when you have nothing left to say?
- buboard 7y agoi m referring to this https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2019/09/23/Greta-Thunberg-15-young-activists-sue-five-countries-over-climate-change/3501569265271/ https://www.upi.com/Science_News/2019/09/23/Greta-Thunberg-1...
- dang 7y agoCould you please stop breaking the site guidelines? We ban accounts that do that repeatedly. If you'd please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and take the spirit of the site more to heart, we'd appreciate it.
- Porthos9K 7y ago> Trolling is a fundamental right , not being trolled is not Freedom of association is as fundamental a right as freedom of speech, and freedom of association means that nobody is entitled to an audience. If you email me, I have the right to block your emails, and indeed refuse all email from your domain. If you DM me on Twitter or Mastodon, I have the right to mute you, and indeed the right to refuse all DMs from non-mutuals. If you come to my house to harangue me, I have every right to call the police and have you charged with harassment -- and in some jurisdictions I might even be able to get away with shooting you and claiming I did so in self-defense.
- buboard 7y agowhich of those is related to this case?
- ASalazarMX 7y agoTrolling is not a right, it's an abuse of a right. You have freedom to express yourself, but using that freedom to harass others for fun is strongly discouraged in society. It flies on the Internet because people can show their worst behavior with practically no discouragement.
- buboard 7y agoTrolling is not harassment. It 's a protected right, just like most expression.
- ASalazarMX 7y agoPosting pornographic media with the intention of it being seen by an underage kid is a protected right?
- buboard 7y agoThat's illegal - but not because it's trolling, but because they 're underage.
- ASalazarMX 7y agoIt's trolling. Trolls want shock, and will resort to anything for it, even if illegal. But let's leave that aside. Do you consider gratuitous insults, slurs, doctored images and defamation aimed at a single individual, a protected right? If a troll did that in person, he would likely be dealt with legally, that's why they do it in numbers and behind a virtual gate. The idea of impunity brings the worst of them.
- bjowen 7y ago> Trolling is a fundamental right , not being trolled is not This is hilariously wrong in most jurisdictions, probably including the one you’re thinking of. You may be parseing down ‘trolling’ to ‘behaving argumentatively on the internets’ but this is not the substance of what attacks are being brought against these young women, who are also minors. Feel free to double down on “death threats aren’t trolling” and so on, if you’ve missed the point. UDHR article 12 for further reading.
- TheAdamAndChe 7y agoIt's always illegal to make death threats.