Software engineering for a large portion of open positions is a trade, it's not computer science. Bootcamps make a lot of sense (when done well). Trying to pass

Software engineering for a large portion of open positions is a trade, it's not computer science. Bootcamps make a lot of sense (when done well). Trying to pass off "web stuff" or "mobile apps" as work that is beneath someone with a "proper engineering education" is extremely elitist and just ridiculous. What the market is showing is that to get a developer who can contribute and make meaningful additions to add value to the company and codebase, a computer science degree is not a requirement. This has always been the case, there have always been people who self studied and got jobs. It largely depends on how motivated you are to pick up new things. A traditional cs education is still a great thing that holds a lot of value. What you learn there will give you a leg up when trying to learn new things throughout your career and if you just go to a bootcamp, you'll probably want to study a lot of those concepts in your career. Comp sci grads need to get off their high horse if they believe what you say. You're not special. What you learned can be learned by a lot of people and it is. It's not a wall gardened career of "nerds" who are separate and unique to the rest of the population. What Make School seems to be offering is a career focused education that is done at a accelerated pace. I'm not saying it competes with a top cs education, but with the many colleges and universities where people don't focus as much and don't have to apply themselves that hard. What I saw (and did) at school was not work that hard and get along just fine with the coursework I was given. Even when I started pushing myself harder, the school work just wasn't that hard. It wasn't until I went to a bootcamp, surrounded by students who were actually really interested in learning and being there, was I pushed as a student. Sure, there are a lot of bootcamps that do not turn out good students. Many of them have turned into cash grabs and it shows as there students can't get jobs and the schools are going under. But that does not mean all of them are bad and all the schools were useless. There are bootcamp grads at probably every company you can think of, contributing in a broad spectrum of languages across all ranges of products. People who are interested in learning and willing to push themselves will succeed (given circumstances) and bootcamps were just a way to get started.