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Hmmm. The vast majority of space object's orbits are stable enough in orbits avoiding us: 1. We wouldn't be here if it weren't the case 2. They would have alre

Hmmm. The vast majority of space object's orbits are stable enough in orbits avoiding us: 1. We wouldn't be here if it weren't the case 2. They would have already collided. Do we really want to destabilize an otherwise random asteroid's orbit unless it's certain it's on a collision course? 1. There are millions (billions?) of other asteroids that come close to us. What makes this one so special? Deflecting this one, even if the deflection works with no unintended consequences, does nothing to improve our odds against getting hit (P = P_one_asteroid * N_asteroids; N_asteroids - 1 ~ N_asteroids). 2. If the deflection destabilizes the orbit, where will the asteroid go but to a nice heafty attractor ? The only value of this is if we're certain its on a collision course. But if we are, then it too late to deflect!

Cthulhu_ 7y ago
First off, why wait until we have an actual emergency to test out a theory? Second, your statement #2 is true, it caused a mass extinction event and probably paved the way for humanity to evolve. If we however get hit by an asteroid of that size again, chances are high that most of the population will die out.
- ehgshgshg 7y ago
  The Earth has already swept it's region of the solar system clean with prior collisions causing the mass extinctions. There are not an infinite amount of asteroids, and in large time frames you can reduce their numbers. Therefore, we have a large hit once a century. Large, but largely inconsequential (The Earth is empty. Try this: Pick random coordinates and look them up on a map. Repeat. How long before you end up w/ 10 km of an inhabited area?) Theories are infinite, funds are not. This is an ineffective solution (we can only deflect small and well predicted orbits) to an unlikely problem: mass extinction from asteroids hasn't happened in a very long time (millions of years) -> Bayesian inference -> very low probability of occurring soon. It will happen. But in a millions years Compare that with the plethora of reasons we might die out in the next 10, 20, or 100 years.
  - nguoi 7y ago
    The last mass extinction event caused by an asteroid was probably only about 66 Mya, about 1% of the Earth's lifetime.
    - ehgshgshg 7y ago
      So very rare. Mass extinctions, from your number, appear to be a once in a 132 Mya event. [0] Humans have been on Earth 0.1 Mya, 0.2Mya; statistically we'll be around for a total of 0.2 to 0.4 Mya in total. [0][1] Therefore, there is a 1-330 chance of the two time lines overlapping. [0] Assuming the present time is random, I believe the best estimate of event frequency is that we're in the middle of two occurrences; hence the doubling. [1]I'm being generous here. I don't think we have 0.2 Mya left in us, primarily because for the first time in history we have the ability to kill ourselves off. Therefore the assumption that out present in at a random position of the human experience used in [0] is invalid. Since we probably only have 100 years left, that's a 1-1E6 possibility facing us.
- throwaway_law 7y ago
  >First off, why wait until we have an actual emergency to test out a theory? I think the theory is deflection of this object from its orbit could have all sorts of unintended consequence like a domino effect that cause either a chain reaction of events that lead this object or others on a collision course with Earth.
danmaz74 7y ago
If you read the article, you'll find out that this specific asteroid was chosen because it's a binary asteroid with some specific characteristics. We'll only hit the moonlet orbiting around the main body, which will make it much easier to measure the deviation even from Earth based observations.

Cthulhu_ 7y ago

First off, why wait until we have an actual emergency to test out a theory? Second, your statement #2 is true, it caused a mass extinction event and probably paved the way for humanity to evolve. If we however get hit by an asteroid of that size again, chances are high that most of the population will die out.

ehgshgshg 7y ago
The Earth has already swept it's region of the solar system clean with prior collisions causing the mass extinctions. There are not an infinite amount of asteroids, and in large time frames you can reduce their numbers. Therefore, we have a large hit once a century. Large, but largely inconsequential (The Earth is empty. Try this: Pick random coordinates and look them up on a map. Repeat. How long before you end up w/ 10 km of an inhabited area?) Theories are infinite, funds are not. This is an ineffective solution (we can only deflect small and well predicted orbits) to an unlikely problem: mass extinction from asteroids hasn't happened in a very long time (millions of years) -> Bayesian inference -> very low probability of occurring soon. It will happen. But in a millions years Compare that with the plethora of reasons we might die out in the next 10, 20, or 100 years.
- nguoi 7y ago
  The last mass extinction event caused by an asteroid was probably only about 66 Mya, about 1% of the Earth's lifetime.
  - ehgshgshg 7y ago
    So very rare. Mass extinctions, from your number, appear to be a once in a 132 Mya event. [0] Humans have been on Earth 0.1 Mya, 0.2Mya; statistically we'll be around for a total of 0.2 to 0.4 Mya in total. [0][1] Therefore, there is a 1-330 chance of the two time lines overlapping. [0] Assuming the present time is random, I believe the best estimate of event frequency is that we're in the middle of two occurrences; hence the doubling. [1]I'm being generous here. I don't think we have 0.2 Mya left in us, primarily because for the first time in history we have the ability to kill ourselves off. Therefore the assumption that out present in at a random position of the human experience used in [0] is invalid. Since we probably only have 100 years left, that's a 1-1E6 possibility facing us.
throwaway_law 7y ago
>First off, why wait until we have an actual emergency to test out a theory? I think the theory is deflection of this object from its orbit could have all sorts of unintended consequence like a domino effect that cause either a chain reaction of events that lead this object or others on a collision course with Earth.

danmaz74 7y ago

If you read the article, you'll find out that this specific asteroid was chosen because it's a binary asteroid with some specific characteristics. We'll only hit the moonlet orbiting around the main body, which will make it much easier to measure the deviation even from Earth based observations.