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The only major remaining website that tries to match people based on interests is OKCupid. And even it is changing every few months. Unfortunately, the success

The only major remaining website that tries to match people based on interests is OKCupid. And even it is changing every few months. Unfortunately, the success of Tinder and move to mobile phones first ruined most of the dating websites, which try to emulate its success. Because people mostly use phone nowadays for dating websites, long profiles are mostly gone, sending long letters is gone, many conversations are single sentence now. Also, instead of matching based on shared interests/values, most of the matching is based on "swipe left/right on photo".

darkwater 7y ago
I don't get why Match.com, OkCupid should converge to a Tinder-like working model if they share ownership. I guess that there are different niches of people for those different websites/apps, no?
- skocznymroczny 7y ago
  Perhaps so that later on they can transition all OKC users onto Tinder and maintain only one product?
  - mcv 7y ago
    Use profiles from one site as basis for fake profiles on another site, and when someone responds to those profiles, mail the user to pressure them to also join the other site.
  - scrollaway 7y ago
    Highly doubt that's their goal. Maintaining multiple dating sites probably just increases their reach and revenue...
notyourday 7y ago
> The only major remaining website that tries to match people based on interests is OKCupid. And even it is changing every few months. Unfortunately, the success of Tinder and move to mobile phones first ruined most of the dating websites, which try to emulate its success. Because people mostly use phone nowadays for dating websites, long profiles are mostly gone, sending long letters is gone, many conversations are single sentence now. Also, instead of matching based on shared interests/values, most of the matching is based on "swipe left/right on photo". You should spend time talking women. They absolutely hated the long-form dating sites. Imagine she is sitting in a cafe. She is not out on a prowl to get married, get laid or go on a date -- she would not mind either of those three if ( long list of requirements ) but she is not here for that specific purpose. She is drinking her macha tea and reading her kindle. Gentleman number one approaches. He smells like he did not shower in a week. He goes into a five minute pitch about his dog, Skippy, and his love for bananas. She is a cat person and she hates yellow things. The gentleman does not leave for thirty minutes Gentleman number two approaches. He is lovely. He fumbles and cracks up a joke. She looks up at him and sees a bugger in his nose. She goes back to her book as he continues to talk to her. Eventually, she says "Look, I'm not interested." He becomes indignant and does not leave for another twenty minutes. That's a long form dating. Here's tinder: She looks up, shakes her head no and a force field ejects him from her table. She does it 114 times. On a time 115 she looks up, nods and exchanges a few words with Mr. 115. If Mr 115 sparks her interest a bit and Mr. 115 decides he may want to see her again, they exchange numbers. Ask your women friends which one of the two they prefer.
- megous 7y ago
  Yeah, no. Noone needed to read some long ranty message to the end, on the "long form" dating websites of the past. And I doubt there were even that many long form messages from men, given how many women complained in their profiles that they don't respond to "Hi! How're you?" and demanded men to put more effort in.
  - notyourday 7y ago
    That's exactly what the long-form dating sites brought to women's inboxes. It was either tomes that would assemble into "War and Peace" within a couple of months without her participation, greatest hits like "So I'm in your area and I am just going to say I'm horny, how about we go to a motel and you give me a blow job" or "Hi. How are you". Think of it as her being a customer and you being a sales person at Best Buy. You want to sell her a specific TV ( your commission is higher ). Are you: a) going to start by printing a manual and all technical documentation and chase her around the store with it? b) walk up to her and say "This TV is great for watching porn" as the intro? c) Say "Hi. How are you?" and just stand there looking at her? None of those three approaches are going to close your sale. The customer is telling you that (c) does not work, you sort of understand that (a) does not work and your brain should tell you that (b) is probably not what you lead with. At least I hope your brain tells you that about (b). So now you have these inputs and she is still in your store and you can still make a sale and a commission. What do men who are unsuccessful with women do? They throw a temper tantrum about her not giving them a chance to sell the TV!
    - megous 7y ago
      "Think of it as her being a customer and you being a sales person at Best Buy." Well that's the wrong approach right there. I'm glad to serve the needs of the other person, but I'll not approach someone with this mindset at the beginning (like sales people have to do). My approach at the beginning is that of exploration, and careless fun. I certainly don't want to start a relationship in a subservient role. Anyway, how's tinder any better? d) You walk up to someone, start opening your mouth for a word, and they swipe you aside, ignoring you. This weird liking of online interactions to real life ones doesn't really work. People act differently online, just a fact of life. Someone saying "Hi, how're you?" online may just end up being quite fine in real life. Not sure about the dickpic people though. LOL

darkwater 7y ago

I don't get why Match.com, OkCupid should converge to a Tinder-like working model if they share ownership. I guess that there are different niches of people for those different websites/apps, no?

skocznymroczny 7y ago
Perhaps so that later on they can transition all OKC users onto Tinder and maintain only one product?
- mcv 7y ago
  Use profiles from one site as basis for fake profiles on another site, and when someone responds to those profiles, mail the user to pressure them to also join the other site.
- scrollaway 7y ago
  Highly doubt that's their goal. Maintaining multiple dating sites probably just increases their reach and revenue...

notyourday 7y ago

> The only major remaining website that tries to match people based on interests is OKCupid. And even it is changing every few months. Unfortunately, the success of Tinder and move to mobile phones first ruined most of the dating websites, which try to emulate its success. Because people mostly use phone nowadays for dating websites, long profiles are mostly gone, sending long letters is gone, many conversations are single sentence now. Also, instead of matching based on shared interests/values, most of the matching is based on "swipe left/right on photo". You should spend time talking women. They absolutely hated the long-form dating sites. Imagine she is sitting in a cafe. She is not out on a prowl to get married, get laid or go on a date -- she would not mind either of those three if ( long list of requirements ) but she is not here for that specific purpose. She is drinking her macha tea and reading her kindle. Gentleman number one approaches. He smells like he did not shower in a week. He goes into a five minute pitch about his dog, Skippy, and his love for bananas. She is a cat person and she hates yellow things. The gentleman does not leave for thirty minutes Gentleman number two approaches. He is lovely. He fumbles and cracks up a joke. She looks up at him and sees a bugger in his nose. She goes back to her book as he continues to talk to her. Eventually, she says "Look, I'm not interested." He becomes indignant and does not leave for another twenty minutes. That's a long form dating. Here's tinder: She looks up, shakes her head no and a force field ejects him from her table. She does it 114 times. On a time 115 she looks up, nods and exchanges a few words with Mr. 115. If Mr 115 sparks her interest a bit and Mr. 115 decides he may want to see her again, they exchange numbers. Ask your women friends which one of the two they prefer.

megous 7y ago
Yeah, no. Noone needed to read some long ranty message to the end, on the "long form" dating websites of the past. And I doubt there were even that many long form messages from men, given how many women complained in their profiles that they don't respond to "Hi! How're you?" and demanded men to put more effort in.
- notyourday 7y ago
  That's exactly what the long-form dating sites brought to women's inboxes. It was either tomes that would assemble into "War and Peace" within a couple of months without her participation, greatest hits like "So I'm in your area and I am just going to say I'm horny, how about we go to a motel and you give me a blow job" or "Hi. How are you". Think of it as her being a customer and you being a sales person at Best Buy. You want to sell her a specific TV ( your commission is higher ). Are you: a) going to start by printing a manual and all technical documentation and chase her around the store with it? b) walk up to her and say "This TV is great for watching porn" as the intro? c) Say "Hi. How are you?" and just stand there looking at her? None of those three approaches are going to close your sale. The customer is telling you that (c) does not work, you sort of understand that (a) does not work and your brain should tell you that (b) is probably not what you lead with. At least I hope your brain tells you that about (b). So now you have these inputs and she is still in your store and you can still make a sale and a commission. What do men who are unsuccessful with women do? They throw a temper tantrum about her not giving them a chance to sell the TV!
  - megous 7y ago
    "Think of it as her being a customer and you being a sales person at Best Buy." Well that's the wrong approach right there. I'm glad to serve the needs of the other person, but I'll not approach someone with this mindset at the beginning (like sales people have to do). My approach at the beginning is that of exploration, and careless fun. I certainly don't want to start a relationship in a subservient role. Anyway, how's tinder any better? d) You walk up to someone, start opening your mouth for a word, and they swipe you aside, ignoring you. This weird liking of online interactions to real life ones doesn't really work. People act differently online, just a fact of life. Someone saying "Hi, how're you?" online may just end up being quite fine in real life. Not sure about the dickpic people though. LOL