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> involves charging your accuser with whatever it is you've just been accused of, rather than refuting the truth of the accusation Thats not what just happened
by basch 7y ago
> involves charging your accuser with whatever it is you've just been accused of, rather than refuting the truth of the accusation
Thats not what just happened. "You accuser" didnt accuse you of being a privacy violation.
Smart Phone was brought up as an EXAMPLE of having a microphone and camera in your pocket, connected to the internet. It wasnt a change in subject from tracking devices.
>Although you are clearly very confused, because whataboutism is a logical fallacy....
I believe you are the confused one. You changed the subject to a fallacy discussion, by mentioning whataboutism. Its like changing the conversation to fruit by mentioning bananas. Obviously banana is a fruit.
>By carrying a smartphone I'm not allowed to care about my privacy?
to quote you "instead of just in the privacy of my own home." no one said you arent allowed to be concerned about privacy, but thats not what you said. the "hivemind" disagreed with your PREMISE that you arent currently tracked and that this product would suddenly create tracking ability that doesnt already exist. Its the "instead of just in my home" part people are taking issue with, because the "just in my home" reality doesnt exist.
- okmokmz 7y ago>"Whataboutism, also known as whataboutery, is a variant of the tu quoque logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position by charging them with hypocrisy without directly refuting or disproving their argument" He is arguing that I should not be concerned with the "Echo Frames" if I use a smartphone because, as he stated, "A phone has more surveillance capabilities than anything announced today." It is a clear example of a whataboutism, as anyone who has done any epistemological study can clearly see. You pulling out a single line of the article in an attempt to discredit my argument is also fallacious, but I'm not going to continue to argue with people who aren't actually interested in having a reasonable discussion. Have a nice day
- basch 7y agoIt might be a whataboutism IF a smart phone company accused alexa of being a privacy violation, and amazon responded and said "no you are."