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Yeah, I really wonder where that $10,000/person figure comes from when you remove obesity and smoking related illnesses, so, the two highest and most preventabl

by geddy 7y ago

Yeah, I really wonder where that $10,000/person figure comes from when you remove obesity and smoking related illnesses, so, the two highest and most preventable causes of death in this country. I always believed you should be able to qualify for lower costs (or be charged higher) depending on how you take care of yourself. Annual physical fitness test. I'm a little sick and tired of paying high premiums for people to have healthcare that don't take care of themselves.

geggam 7y ago
Many of us who won the genetic lottery are sick of paying for those who didn't Where do you draw this line ? If someone cannot afford to eat or live a healthy lifestyle do you kick them while they are down ?
- MuffinFlavored 7y ago
  The brotherhood of "we can all band together to pay for each other" falls apart when the line to McDonald's is wrapped around the corner in my eyes. If you take in over 3,500 calories a day of pizza, soda, cheeseburgers, or candy then follow it up with little to no exercise/movement, you are contributing to the "health insurance crisis".
throwaway22424 7y ago
> I always believed you should be able to qualify for lower costs (or be charged higher) depending on how you take care of yourself. Annual physical fitness test. I'm a little sick and tired of paying high premiums for people to have healthcare that don't take care of themselves. Better hope you never get in a car accident or similar accident or get diagnosed with cancer or a chronic condition. Congratulations for being in perfect health and not needing any sort of medical care. There are plenty of people who don't smoke and aren't obese and can still be bankrupt by standard medical treatments. I would bet money (let's say the value of my annual insurance premiums) that if the two of us took a physical fitness test or compared overall "health" in areas that are more controllable (weigh, cholesterol, body fat percentage, amount of exercise, and other indicators like smoking/drug/alcohol use), I would be considered healthier than you. But I have an endocrine condition that requires very expensive medication and annual tests that cost a lot of money. You're selfish, and that's fine. But the second you ever actually need health care, I hope you remember how quickly you dismiss "people who don't take care of themselves."
wonnage 7y ago
HN, where you can find paranoid vegans blaming people for getting sick

by geddy 7y ago

geggam 7y ago

Many of us who won the genetic lottery are sick of paying for those who didn't Where do you draw this line ? If someone cannot afford to eat or live a healthy lifestyle do you kick them while they are down ?

MuffinFlavored 7y ago
The brotherhood of "we can all band together to pay for each other" falls apart when the line to McDonald's is wrapped around the corner in my eyes. If you take in over 3,500 calories a day of pizza, soda, cheeseburgers, or candy then follow it up with little to no exercise/movement, you are contributing to the "health insurance crisis".

throwaway22424 7y ago

> I always believed you should be able to qualify for lower costs (or be charged higher) depending on how you take care of yourself. Annual physical fitness test. I'm a little sick and tired of paying high premiums for people to have healthcare that don't take care of themselves. Better hope you never get in a car accident or similar accident or get diagnosed with cancer or a chronic condition. Congratulations for being in perfect health and not needing any sort of medical care. There are plenty of people who don't smoke and aren't obese and can still be bankrupt by standard medical treatments. I would bet money (let's say the value of my annual insurance premiums) that if the two of us took a physical fitness test or compared overall "health" in areas that are more controllable (weigh, cholesterol, body fat percentage, amount of exercise, and other indicators like smoking/drug/alcohol use), I would be considered healthier than you. But I have an endocrine condition that requires very expensive medication and annual tests that cost a lot of money. You're selfish, and that's fine. But the second you ever actually need health care, I hope you remember how quickly you dismiss "people who don't take care of themselves."

wonnage 7y ago

HN, where you can find paranoid vegans blaming people for getting sick