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8chan's primary crime is not being sufficiently popular. The Christchurch killer livestreamed the event on Facebook, and the enormous well-funded content moder

8chan's primary crime is not being sufficiently popular. The Christchurch killer livestreamed the event on Facebook, and the enormous well-funded content moderation apparatus within failed to shut it down until well after the innocents were dead. But Grandma uses Facebook, so we can't go after them. The Wal-Mart shooter had a Twitter account, and posted plenty of content questionable enough even for the FBI to take notice. But cousin Jake uses Twitter, so we can't go after them. It doesn't matter what 8chan was used for, because far more popular platforms were used for far worse content. The only thing that mattered here was popularity. And 8chan didn't have it.

sascha_sl 7y ago
8chan attracting such people despite being so small is the entire point and i can't believe i have to point that out they want those people there this is where they radicalize each other
- afiori 7y ago
  https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/07/22/freedom-on-the-centralized-web/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/07/22/freedom-on-the-central... quote: There’s an unfortunate corollary to this, which is that if you try to create a libertarian paradise, you will attract three deeply virtuous people with a strong commitment to the principle of universal freedom, plus millions of scoundrels. Declare that you’re going to stop holding witch hunts, and your coalition is certain to include more than its share of witches.
  - deleted 7y ago
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  - afiori 7y ago
    As an addition, this is not meant to discourage you from taking this path.
    - chessturk 7y ago
      No snark, but if you sincerely believe that, then there can't be a Libertarian Utopia because the libertarians are outnumbered by scoundrels 1mil to 3. Why would you take a path destined for failure?
laughinghan 7y ago
You're right that Facebook was successfully abused by the Christchurch killer, but 8chan was being used by his community as intended, not abused. To most people, that's why 8chan needed to be shut down, but Facebook only needs to be fixed. Why do you think that's irrelevant, and being small is the only crime?
- afiori 7y ago
  As I understand 8chan took down the stream in reasonable time.
  - laughinghan 7y ago
    I have searched and been unable to find anything suggesting this is true. Do you have a citation? Another reason I don't think this is true is that I also can't find anything suggesting that the content the Christchurch killer posted is illegal (indeed, it has significant newsworthiness and academic value), and 8chan's policy was to allow anything not "illegal in the United States of America" [1] . If it didn't violate 8chan's policies, why did they take down the stream? [1]: http://web.archive.org/web/20190805065011/https://8ch.net/faq.html http://web.archive.org/web/20190805065011/https://8ch.net/fa...

sascha_sl 7y ago

8chan attracting such people despite being so small is the entire point and i can't believe i have to point that out they want those people there this is where they radicalize each other

afiori 7y ago
https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/07/22/freedom-on-the-centralized-web/ https://slatestarcodex.com/2015/07/22/freedom-on-the-central... quote: There’s an unfortunate corollary to this, which is that if you try to create a libertarian paradise, you will attract three deeply virtuous people with a strong commitment to the principle of universal freedom, plus millions of scoundrels. Declare that you’re going to stop holding witch hunts, and your coalition is certain to include more than its share of witches.
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- afiori 7y ago
  As an addition, this is not meant to discourage you from taking this path.
  - chessturk 7y ago
    No snark, but if you sincerely believe that, then there can't be a Libertarian Utopia because the libertarians are outnumbered by scoundrels 1mil to 3. Why would you take a path destined for failure?

laughinghan 7y ago

You're right that Facebook was successfully abused by the Christchurch killer, but 8chan was being used by his community as intended, not abused. To most people, that's why 8chan needed to be shut down, but Facebook only needs to be fixed. Why do you think that's irrelevant, and being small is the only crime?

afiori 7y ago
As I understand 8chan took down the stream in reasonable time.
- laughinghan 7y ago
  I have searched and been unable to find anything suggesting this is true. Do you have a citation? Another reason I don't think this is true is that I also can't find anything suggesting that the content the Christchurch killer posted is illegal (indeed, it has significant newsworthiness and academic value), and 8chan's policy was to allow anything not "illegal in the United States of America" [1] . If it didn't violate 8chan's policies, why did they take down the stream? [1]: http://web.archive.org/web/20190805065011/https://8ch.net/faq.html http://web.archive.org/web/20190805065011/https://8ch.net/fa...