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Google Chrome Update Damages macOS File System

81 points by hastes 7y ago

teejmya 7y ago
So... SIP is working as intended?
- tbojanin 7y ago
  only occurs on non-sip macs
  - Agenttin 7y ago
    Right, because SIP is working as intended.
    - kzrdude 7y ago
      Without SIP this would have been caught in testing
      - jjtheblunt 7y ago
        which means they tested inadequately, as they only tested with SIP enabled, but not with SIP disabled ?
- notadoc 7y ago
  Many people do not use SIP.
  - rkv 7y ago
    Do you have statistics? My perception is the opposite.
    - notadoc 7y ago
      Not directly, but anyone with a Hackintosh (modified PC running Mac OS) must have it disabled, and a fair number of pro users disable it for various purposes.
      - pram 7y ago
        JFYI you can have SIP enabled on a hackintosh if you use clover to inject kexts.
- JohnTHaller 7y ago
  Apparently. The fact that you can't run a third party graphics card without disabling it is pretty ludicrous, though.
enzanki_ars 7y ago
Main discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21064663 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21064663
alanfranz 7y ago
Hackintosh killer?
- alanfranz 7y ago
  I wonder why the downvotes. Hackintoshes generally have SIP disabled. Maybe all those video editing workstations were hackintosh machines. There's very little reason to disable SIP otherwise, unless such "damage" was performed by some specialized software. I didn't mean "google is intentionally killing hackintosh systems".
  - pinewurst 7y ago
    I think deactivating SIP is necessary to use non-supported graphics boards (e.g. NVIDIA) which aren't uncommon for video editing.
  - bradleybuda 7y ago
    The article discusses this - SIP often disabled in this industry to install unsuppoted graphics drivers.
    - alanfranz 7y ago
      Makes sense. Thanks.
  - erichocean 7y ago
    > There's very little reason to disable SIP otherwise This…is not true. It's not just Hackintoshes, it's ANY hardware that lacks a SIP-compliant driver. Avid editors use a lot of hardware, hence frequently MUST disable SIP. But sure: blame the user.
    - alanfranz 7y ago
      No blame. Just curiosity.
  - pixelbath 7y ago
013a 7y ago
Reminder about this insanely prophetic comment on the original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21057937 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21057937
- beart 7y ago
  How is that prophetic?
  - yifanl 7y ago
    I read that as sarcasm, especially with the leading qualifier ;)
  - 013a 7y ago
    Everyone in Hollywood was convinced it was Avid. Turns out, it was actually Chrome.
holy_city 7y ago
What was the update doing that trashed /var?
- pg_is_a_butt 7y ago
  it literally trashed the /var symlink.
- eurasiantiger 7y ago
  That is a good question.
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81 points by hastes 7y ago

teejmya 7y ago

So... SIP is working as intended?

tbojanin 7y ago
only occurs on non-sip macs
- Agenttin 7y ago
  Right, because SIP is working as intended.
  - kzrdude 7y ago
    Without SIP this would have been caught in testing
    - jjtheblunt 7y ago
      which means they tested inadequately, as they only tested with SIP enabled, but not with SIP disabled ?
notadoc 7y ago
Many people do not use SIP.
- rkv 7y ago
  Do you have statistics? My perception is the opposite.
  - notadoc 7y ago
    Not directly, but anyone with a Hackintosh (modified PC running Mac OS) must have it disabled, and a fair number of pro users disable it for various purposes.
    - pram 7y ago
      JFYI you can have SIP enabled on a hackintosh if you use clover to inject kexts.
JohnTHaller 7y ago
Apparently. The fact that you can't run a third party graphics card without disabling it is pretty ludicrous, though.

enzanki_ars 7y ago

Main discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21064663 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21064663

alanfranz 7y ago

Hackintosh killer?

alanfranz 7y ago
I wonder why the downvotes. Hackintoshes generally have SIP disabled. Maybe all those video editing workstations were hackintosh machines. There's very little reason to disable SIP otherwise, unless such "damage" was performed by some specialized software. I didn't mean "google is intentionally killing hackintosh systems".
- pinewurst 7y ago
  I think deactivating SIP is necessary to use non-supported graphics boards (e.g. NVIDIA) which aren't uncommon for video editing.
- bradleybuda 7y ago
  The article discusses this - SIP often disabled in this industry to install unsuppoted graphics drivers.
  - alanfranz 7y ago
    Makes sense. Thanks.
- erichocean 7y ago
  > There's very little reason to disable SIP otherwise This…is not true. It's not just Hackintoshes, it's ANY hardware that lacks a SIP-compliant driver. Avid editors use a lot of hardware, hence frequently MUST disable SIP. But sure: blame the user.
  - alanfranz 7y ago
    No blame. Just curiosity.
- pixelbath 7y ago

013a 7y ago

Reminder about this insanely prophetic comment on the original post: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21057937 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21057937

beart 7y ago
How is that prophetic?
- yifanl 7y ago
  I read that as sarcasm, especially with the leading qualifier ;)
- 013a 7y ago
  Everyone in Hollywood was convinced it was Avid. Turns out, it was actually Chrome.

holy_city 7y ago

What was the update doing that trashed /var?

pg_is_a_butt 7y ago
it literally trashed the /var symlink.
eurasiantiger 7y ago
That is a good question.

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