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I'm curious how it is that the bag of flour and the box of pasta ended up in the "unprocessed food" photo, but the loaves of bread ended up in the "processed fo

I'm curious how it is that the bag of flour and the box of pasta ended up in the "unprocessed food" photo, but the loaves of bread ended up in the "processed food" photo.

aidenn0 7y ago
Some bread is basically [flour, water, yeast] which wouldn't count as ultraprocessed, but the top hits for whole-weat and white bread respectively for bread at on instacart have ingredients listed below (notice both contain sweeteners, oils and salt, with the whole-wheat bread having 3 different sweeteners and the white bread just good-old HFCS). The first hit for dried pasta contained two types of flour, plus typical flour fortifications. Whole Wheat Flour, Water, Sugar, Wheat Gluten, Raisin Juice Concentrate, Soybean Oil, Yeast, Cultured Wheat Flour, Molasses, Salt, Soy Lecithin, Grain Vinegar, Citric Acid, Soy, Whey. Enriched Flour (Wheat Flour, Malted Barley, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Yeast. Contains 2% or Less of: Soybean Oil, Salt, Soy Flour, Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate, Ammonium Sulfate, Calcium Sulfate, Ascorbic Acid, Calcium Propionate (Preservative), Enzymes Sources (for some reason instacart had some ingredient lists and ralphs' website had others but neither had ingredient list for both): https://www.instacart.com/store/items/item_152519229 https://www.instacart.com/store/items/item_152519229 https://www.ralphs.com/p/kroger-enriched-white-sandwich-bread/0001111000160 https://www.ralphs.com/p/kroger-enriched-white-sandwich-brea... https://www.ralphs.com/p/barilla-farfalle-pasta/0007680850108 https://www.ralphs.com/p/barilla-farfalle-pasta/000768085010...
- mumblemumble 7y ago
  Right, but I'm talking just processed vs unprocessed. The breads in the pictures looked like they probably weren't heavily processed, but even if they're just flour, water, salt, and yeast, I'd still count de-germing and milling the wheat to make flour as kinds of processing. The fermentation is also at least arguably a form of processing, as is kneading to develop the gluten.

I'm curious how it is that the bag of flour and the box of pasta ended up in the "unprocessed food" photo, but the loaves of bread ended up in the "processed food" photo.

aidenn0 7y ago

Some bread is basically [flour, water, yeast] which wouldn't count as ultraprocessed, but the top hits for whole-weat and white bread respectively for bread at on instacart have ingredients listed below (notice both contain sweeteners, oils and salt, with the whole-wheat bread having 3 different sweeteners and the white bread just good-old HFCS). The first hit for dried pasta contained two types of flour, plus typical flour fortifications. Whole Wheat Flour, Water, Sugar, Wheat Gluten, Raisin Juice Concentrate, Soybean Oil, Yeast, Cultured Wheat Flour, Molasses, Salt, Soy Lecithin, Grain Vinegar, Citric Acid, Soy, Whey. Enriched Flour (Wheat Flour, Malted Barley, Niacin, Reduced Iron, Thiamine Mononitrate, Riboflavin, Folic Acid), Water, High Fructose Corn Syrup, Yeast. Contains 2% or Less of: Soybean Oil, Salt, Soy Flour, Sodium Stearoyl Lactylate, Ammonium Sulfate, Calcium Sulfate, Ascorbic Acid, Calcium Propionate (Preservative), Enzymes Sources (for some reason instacart had some ingredient lists and ralphs' website had others but neither had ingredient list for both): https://www.instacart.com/store/items/item_152519229 https://www.instacart.com/store/items/item_152519229 https://www.ralphs.com/p/kroger-enriched-white-sandwich-bread/0001111000160 https://www.ralphs.com/p/kroger-enriched-white-sandwich-brea... https://www.ralphs.com/p/barilla-farfalle-pasta/0007680850108 https://www.ralphs.com/p/barilla-farfalle-pasta/000768085010...

mumblemumble 7y ago
Right, but I'm talking just processed vs unprocessed. The breads in the pictures looked like they probably weren't heavily processed, but even if they're just flour, water, salt, and yeast, I'd still count de-germing and milling the wheat to make flour as kinds of processing. The fermentation is also at least arguably a form of processing, as is kneading to develop the gluten.