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Should meat be banned to save the planet?

2 points by elorant 7y ago

core-questions 7y ago
So what, we're just going to eat maggots, live in Podshare bunkbeds, consume content, and get excited for next content? Is this really the best utopia we can dream up? Is it worthwhile to sacrifice quality of life on a grand scale - of which meat is a huge part, sorry vegans - just so we can have more and more humans packed into their kennels to produce code and consume content?
- meerita 7y ago
  This article doesn't even cover, how we will replace all the nutrients that meat and animal products bring to our health. This article looks like more those vegan hypothesis articles that never fits into reality.
undefined3840 7y ago
Just get rid of factory farming. Meat should generally speaking be much more expensive than it is right now. Prices are artificially low due to subsidies and industrial scale farming practices.
- core-questions 7y ago
  So your thesis is that it should be fine for only the rich to get to eat meat, and poor people can just eat maggotburgers and soy? Can you see why someone might see that as an elitist, late-stage-capitalist solution to the problem? Especially when we know factory farms work to feed massive numbers - shouldn't the focus be to make it more environmentally friendly, rather than restricting it to those who can pay? God, can you imagine working the farm all day and then going home to eat crickets because you can't even afford the hamburger you're raising?
  - mikelyons 7y ago
    Making it more environmentally friendly _is_ making it much more expensive and that's why it hasn't happened yet.
  - undefined3840 7y ago
    I didn’t realize “late stage capitalism” meant removing subsidies that distort the free market. For most of history meat was considered a luxury. In many countries it still is. For what it’s worth, I’m all in on lab grown meat. Hopefully in 20 years we’ll look back in time and see how barbaric factory farming was.
    - core-questions 7y ago
      Barbaric? To provide sanitary fresh meat to the entire populace at affordable prices is barbaric? To replace that with some lab-grown monstrosity that requires the entire fragile technological stack of our civilization for maintenance is somehow better than a system that mostly relies on grass, water, and sunlight?

2 points by elorant 7y ago

So what, we're just going to eat maggots, live in Podshare bunkbeds, consume content, and get excited for next content? Is this really the best utopia we can dream up? Is it worthwhile to sacrifice quality of life on a grand scale - of which meat is a huge part, sorry vegans - just so we can have more and more humans packed into their kennels to produce code and consume content?

meerita 7y ago
This article doesn't even cover, how we will replace all the nutrients that meat and animal products bring to our health. This article looks like more those vegan hypothesis articles that never fits into reality.

undefined3840 7y ago

Just get rid of factory farming. Meat should generally speaking be much more expensive than it is right now. Prices are artificially low due to subsidies and industrial scale farming practices.

core-questions 7y ago
So your thesis is that it should be fine for only the rich to get to eat meat, and poor people can just eat maggotburgers and soy? Can you see why someone might see that as an elitist, late-stage-capitalist solution to the problem? Especially when we know factory farms work to feed massive numbers - shouldn't the focus be to make it more environmentally friendly, rather than restricting it to those who can pay? God, can you imagine working the farm all day and then going home to eat crickets because you can't even afford the hamburger you're raising?
- mikelyons 7y ago
  Making it more environmentally friendly _is_ making it much more expensive and that's why it hasn't happened yet.
- undefined3840 7y ago
  I didn’t realize “late stage capitalism” meant removing subsidies that distort the free market. For most of history meat was considered a luxury. In many countries it still is. For what it’s worth, I’m all in on lab grown meat. Hopefully in 20 years we’ll look back in time and see how barbaric factory farming was.
  - core-questions 7y ago
    Barbaric? To provide sanitary fresh meat to the entire populace at affordable prices is barbaric? To replace that with some lab-grown monstrosity that requires the entire fragile technological stack of our civilization for maintenance is somehow better than a system that mostly relies on grass, water, and sunlight?