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Except going vegan often involves massive increases in ultraprocessed foods. Realistically, vegan food prep takes a long time, so meat substitutes end up in th
by Pxtl 7y ago
Except going vegan often involves massive increases in ultraprocessed foods. Realistically, vegan food prep takes a long time, so meat substitutes end up in the diet for convenience if nothing else - and meat substitutes are pure processed food.
I mean we have one group handwriting about gluten and meanwhile one of the tastiest vegan foods is pure gluten.
- pstuart 7y ago> tastiest vegan foods Not by itself, but when properly seasoned. Hail Seitan!
- yubiox 7y ago10 weeks vegan here. Easiest diet ever, no cravings. I'm down 19 lbs (193-174, 6' tall). Dropping the chips and oreos took a few weeks, I just thought anything vegan was ok until I realized junk food is junk food. I cook twice a week and make enough to last a few days. It takes about an hour to cook. I sautee vegetables and put them on rice and quinoa or pasta. For breakfast I have a banana and a Larabar. For dessert I have grapes or watermelon. Before this I rarely ate healthy food. Chipotle is decent fast food when you aren't cooking.
- moate 7y agoOreos are vegan fwiw.
- Djvacto 7y agoI think they were saying that, despite being vegan, they took a bit to cut them out after realizing they wouldn't help with weight loss, since they are still junk food.
- moate 7y agoRereading that again, I see how that could be the take-away now. My first go through was how some people switching to a vegetarian diet say things like 'quitting bacon was the hardest, I kept going back to it for the first month".
- neaden 7y agoThis seems like a good diet, but it also doesn't seem like the vegan part is what is helping you out here, if you had ceased eating junk food and still ate meat you probably would have seen similar/the same results.
- asokoloski 7y agoStick with it! A vegan diet like you're eating has benefits far beyond weight loss -- you're less likely to get heart disease, cancer, and a whole bunch of other chronic diseases than omnivores.
- senorjazz 7y agoComing up to 20 year vegetarian. If you haven't, think about getting a pressure cooker. Beans / lentils chickpeas just became viable and quick. Soups / stews can be cooked in a few minutes and can be frozen and last forever
- Consultant32452 7y agoSecond the pressure cooker. I can go from zero to an amazing lentil soup on the table in about 15-20 mins. I'm super lazy so for flavoring I use bouillon and dry seasonings. Everyone loves it.
- ska 7y ago> Realistically, vegan food prep takes a long time, I don't think vegan food prep takes significantly more time than other food prep from raw sources, at least on average over a varied diet, though I guess "becoming vegan" might be the impetus for a lot of people to start making their own food for the first time.
- Djvacto 7y agoAnecdotal: The difference between being able to buy a pack of chicken breasts at Costco vs having to make my own seitan is definitely a huge difference in time. My wife and I tag-team the parts we hate most (I don't like working with dough, but she hates steaming it) and we end up with enough for a week to cook into actual recipes without too much headache, but I can't just buy a protein ready to go like I used to be able to.
- ska 7y agoI hear you and I do think there are more "shortcuts" (on the other hand, breaking down a chicken is work too but probably an improvement for the meat eater over packaged breasts). But beans and legumes are very little work and store for ages, etc. Quinoa and the like too, easy/ Depending where you live you may have good sources of fresh tofu & seitan, etc. If you are looking for "same meal, but X instead of chicken" it's more work, granted. That's hardly the only option though, and learning a range of dishes from traditionally vegetarian or near vegetarian cuisines can help generate a list of easy & tasty alternatives.
- Djvacto 7y agoI agree with you on beans and legumes! I'm currently trying to maintain a calorie deficit while hitting a protein target that seitan makes very convenient (though I also have been using some protein powders that help recently, and gave in and started buying that new Silk protein milk as a shortcut). Beans and Legumes are great, and we cook a lot of indian, thai, and mexican dishes with them, but the combination of calorie deficit and protein target make it a bit tough to do without some almost-pure-protein foods. Seitan is also delicious.
- thedaemon 7y agoIf you are vegan, you aren't eating meat substitutes at all. That's more of the line along a vegetarian don't you think? A vegan is against using animals for consumption, therefore does not want to eat meat or eat fake meat that tries to taste like meat. At least this is my experience with vegans.
- ska 7y ago> If you are vegan, you aren't eating meat substitutes at all. That's not my experience at all. I'm not one but I've known vegans to like various meat substitutes, from Buddhist style proteins/meals to fake-meat burgers and hot-dogs. Others don't want anything do with them. FWIW most vegans I've met more broadly object to the use of animal products or labor too, hence it's not just steaks but leather and honey, etc.
- gameswithgo 7y agoThis is not correct.
- newnewpdro 7y agoThat's crazy talk. Vegans love meat substitutes in my experience, as long as they're vegan compatible.
- top_kekeroni_m8 7y agoPeople do not go vegan because they do not like the taste of meat. Veganism is a way of living which seeks to exclude, as far as is possible and practicable, all forms of exploitation of, and cruelty to, animals for food, clothing or any other purpose. Some people miss the taste of meat and the dishes prepared from it; that's why they buy meat substitutes.
- captainredbeard 7y agoIs this the food equivalent of "avoiding the appearance of evil"?
- senorjazz 7y ago> Except going vegan often involves massive increases in ultraprocessed foods. err no it doesn't. > Realistically, vegan food prep takes a long time err no it doesn't. If you are cooking actual food, then it takes no more time than cooking food that you are add meat to.
- captainredbeard 7y agoIn my experience cooking (which I do a lot, for a large family), it's generally faster to produce a high umami meat-based meal than it is to create a vegetarian or vegan one. The main reason I find is that I have to cook vegetables for much longer (with sauces, etc.) to develop the rich flavors that are "built-in" to something like a steak (which I can cook in 10 minutes).