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https://www.gnome.org/support-gnome/donate/ https://www.gnome.org/support-gnome/donate/ Let's use up the news momentum to give GNOME (more) resources to bury t

https://www.gnome.org/support-gnome/donate/ https://www.gnome.org/support-gnome/donate/ Let's use up the news momentum to give GNOME (more) resources to bury these fuckers.

twobat 7y ago
I always thought of Gnome as a Redhat product.
- madrix999 7y ago
  Isn't KDE maintained by RedHat? There was news a while back about them killing off KDE in the near future
  - beojan 7y ago
    No. They just aren't packaging KDE for RHEL.
  - zaat 7y ago
    You are confusing KDE with X11, which is maintained by Red Hat and was announced as going into maintenance mode in favor of Wayland.
    - Arnavion 7y ago
      They weren't confusing it with X, though they were misremembering RH's role - https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html-single/7.6_release_notes/index#idm139718396587376 https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterp...
- dylan-m 7y ago
  Nope! Current GNOME foundation board has one RedHat employee, out of six people. RedHat contributes a lot to the project, because they are one of few companies making a desktop distro with serious resources behind it. (That, and RedHat understands open source enough that they see collaborating upstream as a net benefit). But GNOME is its own thing, and always has been, built by contributions from all sorts of places.
  - dbuder 7y ago
    IBM/RH should foot the bill for the legal defense.
noobiemcfoob 7y ago
GNOME has brought me so much value over the years, yeah, sure, I'll use this excuse to throw some money at it.
domnomnom 7y ago
I can't after how they turned on Stallman
- komali2 7y ago
  Turned on? Stallman just didn't learn, despite decades of people trying to convince him, that his behavior was counter to his very cause. His overt misogyny created barriers to free software development where there needn't be any - who wants to go into the office that has "knight for hot ladies" pasted on the door? All of that behavior is being addressed directly now and people aren't going to put up with it. RMS quirky as fuck. More than anything it's a shame he just couldn't pick up on that one social skill. Wired did a fairly decent write-up, although I disagree that his speaker's pack is convoluted. https://www.wired.com/story/richard-stallman-and-the-fall-of-the-clueless-nerd/ https://www.wired.com/story/richard-stallman-and-the-fall-of...
  - lostjohnny 7y ago
    > Turned on? Stallman just didn't learn Same words a nazi would have used... > that his behavior was counter to his very cause. His behavior is his, you are you to think that yours is better? > who wants to go into the office that has "knight for hot ladies" I would! Because I can recognize a joke when I see one. I would not work with you though, because you're a fucking wazzock.
    - hutzlibu 7y ago
      "Because I can recognize a joke when I see one." Me, too. But I suppose, you are also not a women struggeling in a sexist nerd IT world? (and after hearing some storys it is not clear to me, if it really is a full joke) So I can understand, that women are offended by it. Also, the sign is by far not the only thing, people were offended by him.
      - hvis 7y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts In any case, RMS effectively got dismissed because of an email on a university-internal mailing list where he tried to defend the honor of a dead friend and colleague in a way that seemed appropriate to him at the time. But the wording triggered the attention of some overly sensitive SJW who decided it's a good enough offence to retaliate against using all the social media power that she could muster. The "hot ladies" stuff was tacked on later to try to justify the dismissal, as if it's not just the bad (but loud) media coverage that was the actual reason.

https://www.gnome.org/support-gnome/donate/ https://www.gnome.org/support-gnome/donate/ Let's use up the news momentum to give GNOME (more) resources to bury these fuckers.

twobat 7y ago

I always thought of Gnome as a Redhat product.

madrix999 7y ago
Isn't KDE maintained by RedHat? There was news a while back about them killing off KDE in the near future
- beojan 7y ago
  No. They just aren't packaging KDE for RHEL.
- zaat 7y ago
  You are confusing KDE with X11, which is maintained by Red Hat and was announced as going into maintenance mode in favor of Wayland.
  - Arnavion 7y ago
    They weren't confusing it with X, though they were misremembering RH's role - https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterprise_linux/7/html-single/7.6_release_notes/index#idm139718396587376 https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-us/red_hat_enterp...
dylan-m 7y ago
Nope! Current GNOME foundation board has one RedHat employee, out of six people. RedHat contributes a lot to the project, because they are one of few companies making a desktop distro with serious resources behind it. (That, and RedHat understands open source enough that they see collaborating upstream as a net benefit). But GNOME is its own thing, and always has been, built by contributions from all sorts of places.
- dbuder 7y ago
  IBM/RH should foot the bill for the legal defense.

noobiemcfoob 7y ago

GNOME has brought me so much value over the years, yeah, sure, I'll use this excuse to throw some money at it.

domnomnom 7y ago

I can't after how they turned on Stallman

komali2 7y ago
Turned on? Stallman just didn't learn, despite decades of people trying to convince him, that his behavior was counter to his very cause. His overt misogyny created barriers to free software development where there needn't be any - who wants to go into the office that has "knight for hot ladies" pasted on the door? All of that behavior is being addressed directly now and people aren't going to put up with it. RMS quirky as fuck. More than anything it's a shame he just couldn't pick up on that one social skill. Wired did a fairly decent write-up, although I disagree that his speaker's pack is convoluted. https://www.wired.com/story/richard-stallman-and-the-fall-of-the-clueless-nerd/ https://www.wired.com/story/richard-stallman-and-the-fall-of...
- lostjohnny 7y ago
  > Turned on? Stallman just didn't learn Same words a nazi would have used... > that his behavior was counter to his very cause. His behavior is his, you are you to think that yours is better? > who wants to go into the office that has "knight for hot ladies" I would! Because I can recognize a joke when I see one. I would not work with you though, because you're a fucking wazzock.
  - hutzlibu 7y ago
    "Because I can recognize a joke when I see one." Me, too. But I suppose, you are also not a women struggeling in a sexist nerd IT world? (and after hearing some storys it is not clear to me, if it really is a full joke) So I can understand, that women are offended by it. Also, the sign is by far not the only thing, people were offended by him.
    - hvis 7y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moving_the_goalposts In any case, RMS effectively got dismissed because of an email on a university-internal mailing list where he tried to defend the honor of a dead friend and colleague in a way that seemed appropriate to him at the time. But the wording triggered the attention of some overly sensitive SJW who decided it's a good enough offence to retaliate against using all the social media power that she could muster. The "hot ladies" stuff was tacked on later to try to justify the dismissal, as if it's not just the bad (but loud) media coverage that was the actual reason.